Subject: DAYS OF OUR LIVES #89
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 07:33:38 -0500

MAIL-bag - PRESERVING FORGOTTEN MEMORIES

I welcome articles, BIO's, stories, etc and certainly hope that all ASA Turkey Vet's will contribute and make the newsletter worthwhile. You can write whatever message you would like, and it will show up right here for all your friends! I will respond to all e-mails and will assist whenever needed, but reserve the right to edit for content and clarity and welcome any errors that may appear herein. Thank you, Elder RC Green, aka gH (ercgreen@yourinter.net >)

NOTICE

The DAYS OF OUR LIVES newsletter is now posted on Bill Simons SINOP website at: http://dool-1.tripod.com

If anyone wants to be deleted from the weekly transmittal to your in-box, please send e-mail to your relayer with Cc to me (so that a smooth transition can be accomplished. ercgreen@yourinter.net>)

NEWLY FOUND VETERAN'S

BAYARD, John E4 059 Det 27, DE61-JN63, jmbayard@toad.net I'm a Det. 27 vet. (Dec '61 - Jun '63. SP/4, 059) I'll probably send a full bio eventually, but in the meantime I'd like to know how the reunion went. Is there a wrapup report? If so, would you send me a copy please? [I sent John Bayard #88 which is the AFTER REUNION report and advised him to visit: <http://dool-1.tripod.com> to view my DAYS OF OUR LIVES

BURDICK, Ed (Birdie) E4 05K Det 4-4 JA70-JL71, (Janet), From Bill Bender: Dear Fellow Former ASA'ers, I just got a nice E-mail from another former Det 4-4 alumni, Ed Burdick. Please up date your lists with Ed's address, phone number, and E-mail address as follows: 209 Willow Street, Meadville, PA 16335-3171, 814-336-2652, wgf618@zoominternet.net . Ed served with me in Turkey and also at NSA Ft. Meade. He was a good soldier and friend! Best Regards, Bill Bender

CALLISON, Rodney D "Roach" DOB: 20NO49, E4 05K Det 4 and 4-4, SE70-MR71, (Barbara), PO Box 52, Rosewood, OH 43070, 937-362-3041, rcallison@woh.rr.com </ym/Compose?To=rcallison@woh.rr.com>. Called Rodney on 16 October 2002 and talked for a long time. He was #53 on the tackle football team. Said that Phil Fogle was the QB. Gave me several new names and said that he will be to the 2003 reunion

FARLER, Wiley DOB NO49 E5 05K Det 4-4, 70-72, (Sue-was at 4-4), 2428 Giant Oaks Dr., Upper St.Clair, PA 15241, 412-833-6157. wfarler@aol.com </ym/Compose?To=wfarler@aol.com> and wfarler@accoy.com </ym/Compose?To=wfarler@accoy.com> (Work). Contacted on 17 October 2002

FRAZEE, Mike DOB MR49 E5 98C Det 4, MR69-OC69 & 4-4, OC69-JN71, (Susan), 982 N. Elmtree Rd., St. Paris, OH 43072, 937-368-3848, mfrazee@wesnet.com </ym/Compose?To=mfrazee@wesnet.com>. Contacted on 17 October 2002.

Elder Green - Merhaba (haven't used that word for a while) Forgot most of the Turkish that I knew.
Appreciate the call last evening. Reviewing the 1970 4-4 tackle team picture and I cannot distinguish which player is Rodney Callison. He probably will be able to or maybe he was not present for picture. Email address for Tom Nuttal Twn1949@aol.com
As I said last night, Tom is much more of a people persona and has kept in touch with many of our company is Turkey. I know for a fact that he has phone number of Russell Dukes. About 1 1/2 years ago, I went to Savannah and visited Tom, Russ came up from Jacksonville Florida for that visit. I looked around for phone # but could not find. Another name for you is Martin Snow masnow@direcpc.com
Sam Derr at samandcherie@attbi.com
As we said Sam is in Youngwood Pa. Martin Snow lives in Henderson Maryland 1-41--482-9296. Martin is also a people person and probably has some names and addresses. At Karamursel this would have been from late 1969 to Early 1971. I will forward your word document to Tom, Sam, and Martin. I will also see if I have any interesting photos. Martin and I were both photo buffs over there. Know I have 100's of slides. Just have to locate them and look them over. Perhaps I will get Rodney over (we called him "Roach" as he once ate a cockroach on a bet up at Sinop - if you delivered 50 roach carcasses to bar you got free drink and it wasn't that hard to accomplish) and we can look them over together. Rodney only lives about 8 miles from me. Thanks again. Mike Frazee

HUDDLESTON, ELLIS E4 058 Det 4, 58-59, (Linda), 290 County Road 8061, Booneville, MS 38829, 662-728-4548, ellish@bignetsouth.net

KALTENBAUGH, Pete Det 4 & 4-4, 69-71, (Janice-was at KAS), 1793 Andrews St., Ne, Hartville, OH 44632, 330-877-7836. Tim Rex was a friend of the Kaltenbaugh's at 4-4. They lost touch over the years, but knew where each other lived. The Kaltenbaugh's are natives of Johnstown, PA where they plan to return to in about 2 years. Pete is a minister in the Church of the Brethren

KJOLLER, Jon Det 4, 59-60, 993 Rosemary Dr., New Braunfels, TX 78130, 830-625-1064, kjoller@the-cia.net
Jon has some excellent photo's on Bill Simons website

QUICKEL, Everett (Buck) E6 05K Det 27, 66-68, 239 Woodland Dr., Hillsboro, OH 45133, 937-393-8370, shadyplace@cinci.rr.com
. I called Buck Quickel on 13 Oct 2002.

REX, Edw T (Tim) E5 Det 4 and 4-4, JA69-OC71, (Linda-was at KAS),114 Suburban Acres, Carmichaels, PA 15320, 724-966-2574, t_rex48@hotmail.com (tunderscorerex48@hotmail.com

RUSHLOW, Joseph A E4 05K Det 4, AP69-OC69 & Det 4-4, OC69-AP71, (Victoria-div, 2/W Priscilla), 1025 Willow Creek Dr., LaPorte, TX 77571, 281-470-2400, rushlow@earthlink.net

STOVER, Alan K Det 4 & 4-4, 69-AU70, (Arlene), 104 W South St., Columbus Grove, OH 45830, 419-659-2793, smokey@q1.net

TAYLOR, Daniel H Jr (Dan), DOB: 28AP35 SP6 Det 4, AU61-JL62 & CW3, JA70-DE70, (Janet), 110 Walker Rd., Shirley, MA 01464, 978-425-2272, cw3usaret@earthlink.net
Elder - I want to thank you very much for the DAYS OF OUR LIVES # 88. It was very enjoyable reading and brought back a lot of memories. I wish I had been in contact with you earlier. I live in Shirley Mass and sure would have attended the reunion. Between active duty and civil service at the USASATC&S I worked at Devens for 26 years. I retired here to take advantage of my benefits and then they close the post on me. I survive and am thankful I had that available at Devens for so many years when my family was growing up.. Please keep me on your mailing list. A reunion next year in Maryland sounds real good to me. I will help increase the ranks of the Det 4 group. From an MOS stand point those two tours at SINOP were the best that I spent in ASA.

Good evening,

TYGART, Joe (Baron Von) Det 4, ?-?. Spouse ?, Aviation Maint Readiness Officer, XVIII Abn Corps, Ft Bragg, NC 28310, tygart@bragg.army.mil. Thanks - Another great site! Wish I had known about the 2002 reunion. Is there actually a 03' reunion scheduled? Later, Joe (Baron Von Tygart, DET 4)CW5 Joseph M. Tygart
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2003 REUNION STATUS

The 2003 REUNION plans are sketchy at this point. I should have the site selected NLT the 1st of November and then will give out the committee assignments. The site selection can be chaotic to say the least, but I've narrowed it down to somewhere in the Laurel Highlands of Western Pennsylvania or Maryland and the crash site of Flight 93 and also the site where the 9 trapped miners were recovered is nearby. I've put feelers our for the Norfolk and Portsmouth area; Branson, MO; Bern, NC and several other locales as future reunion sites.

THE REUNION COMMITTEE

Elder RC Green, PA., Det 27 and 4-4, ercgreen@yourinter.net

Mitch Armstrong, NC., Det 27, armstrondsl@earthlink.net

Bill Bender, PA., Det 4-4, wddcbender@comcast.net

Gary Jorgensen, MN., Det 27 and 4-4, g_jorgensen@hotmail.com

Harry Lance, PA., Det 4, hipockets40@msn.com

Bob Murphy, MD., Det 27, murphy@annap.infi.net

Ralph Richter, OH., Det 27, ricralph@aol.com

Don Salcido, CA., Det 27, dsalcido2@cox.net

Gary Stolp, TX., Det 27, poostolp@yahoo.com

Bob Van Erem, MD., Det 4, rje@erols.com

Daryl Waite, IL., Det 66, k9jpq@hotmail.com

Interestingly, but perhaps not surprisingly, those who attended the Fort Devens reunion along with other of my OLD and newly found friends are among those least likely to agree that the reunion should be held every other year. They want the reunion preserved and the overall interest maintained and enhanced thru the DAYS OF OUR LIVES! They feel that a lapse of one year will cause the interest to dissipate! They also feel that the reunion will grow in size. Let's face it....We're all getting up in age and there may not be too many left for some of us. -- Thus far, the attendees are mostly from East of the Mississippi River! Bob Murphy of Glen Burnie, MD is anxious to get started. I considered Blob's Park in Jessup, MD as a possible reunion site for 2003, but passed on it since the ASA picnic is held there the 1st week-end in August every year and everyone is welcome to attend it. Handing out committee assignments is a difficult task as is the overall planning for the reunions. It's simply a difficult task. I will have the site selected by 1 November 2002 and will prepare a questionnaire to determine how many hotel rooms to block off for the reunion, etc, etc. More later and any suggestions or volunteer's will be greatly appreciated- - -gH
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As editor of the "DAYS OF OUR LIVES," I get a LOT of e-mails. I am also often the recipient of some unwanted e-mails. Although they are a nuisance, I am used to this and just make it a point to keep myself informed about what's going around so that I'm not taken in by one of them. Some folks are not as forgiving.

LOUDERMILK, Roy L., Jr., Cpt Det 66, FE61-JN63,(1/W Joan-died-1986, 2/W Sharlene), 30335 Lettingwell Cir., Wesley Chapel, FL 33543, 813-994-8234, rlouder434@earthlink.net
Roy spent 30 years in the US Army and retired in 1987 as a Colonel. He has many interesting stories about his Tour of Duty at Manzarali with Det 66. How many remember the Turk who got shot dead on the perimeter fence at Site 23 by a Turk guard in 1961? He remembers a lot about Ken Baldwin and a CPT Anthony Cataldi who was the Adjutant at Det 66. It was alleged that Cataldi was in cohoots with Baldwin and rumor had it that they had brought a boat load of Dodge and Chrysler automobiles into Istanbul and that Baldwin was the only one to be prosecuted in Turkey by the Turks. Some people reported that upon Cataldi’s return to the states (Ft. Dix) he was given an Article 15. Also, some people believed that the Article 15 was for his adventures in Turkey, but that is pure speculation.
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AN UP-DATE FROM THE 1ST COMMANDER AT DET 4-4

Maj Edward J. Cima

CIMA, Edw J O4 CO Det 4-4, 67-69, (Lois), RR4 Mt Pleasant PA 15666, 724-547-4425, lgc17762@aol.com
- Hi Elder.Haven't been ignoring you or the group. Being retired is the pits. I don't even get weekends off anymore. Just came back from York, PA, where our SMART (Special Military Active/Retired Travelers) chapter, the Keystoners,hosted a NE Muster for four days. We had over 100 rigs from FL to ME for four days. Been planning all year for it and it went well. My wife and I were Secretaries for the last two years and I just finished the last magazine article recapping the muster. Now we are packing up and leaving in a couple of weeks for the west coast. Meanwhile the one acre plantation needs some TLC. Finished the last of the canning Sat,thank goodness. I must be getting old as I get tired once in a while. Enough of that. In regard to the picture that is the three Stooges. Close but not accurate. I'm sitting. At my left is Lt Richard Roerig-Ops. At my right is Lt Bill Morris-Ops as well. John Holland ran into Roerig in D.C. a while back but I don't think any of the two keep in touch. I know Morris wasn't the career type and I don't think Roerig stuck it out either but I'm guessing. Have'nt heard a word about this years reunion. Hope it all went well on schedule. I know you do a lot of work on those. Take care and have a peaceful winter.
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From: Roger Roy, rogerdodger803@msn.com

Hello, I saw your reunion in the American Legion magazine. I was at Site 23 Det 66 from around July 1966 thru Dec 1967. Any info you could me I would appreciate it. Thank, Roger Roy
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BARTHOLF, Dick E5 05H Det 27, OC60-MR62, (Jean), 307 Christie Rd., PO Box 557, Mayfield, NY 12117, 518-661-6386, jbarthol@nycap.rr.com (cable)

BIO for Dick Bartholf

I volunteered for the draft and was drafted in January of 1960. I took basic training at Fort Hood, Texas, then I was sent to Fort Devens, Mass. for schooling to become an 058. I was there for about four months and then I was sent to Herzo Grenarac, Germany. I was in Germany for three months. In the last part of October 1960 I was told I had to go to Turkey as they were starting a base there and they needed bodies. I arrived in Manzarali, Turkey DET 27 in late October '60. It was quite a change from Germany to Turkey. The base wasn't completed, there was a gym there, a mess hall, a small PX, an NCO Club and that was about it. Needless to say I wasn't a happy camper but we made the best of what we had. I met some real nice guys there so that made it a little better. I was scheduled to leave there on December 15, 1961, but then there was the Berlin Crisis and everybody got extended. I finally got to go home in March of 1961. I went to Fort Dix and was discharged two days later. In October of '62 Jean and I were married and this month it's 40 years. We have three girls and ten grandchildren. I had three or four different jobs when I got out and then I went to work for the General Electric Company. I retired in 1997 with 32 years service and now I'm ENJOYING LIFE.

Dick and Jean Barthol, 058, Det 27, 60-62, Mayfield, NY.
Dick was a drafted 058.

Chuck and Penny Teschker, E5, 059, Det 27, 60-62, Hartland, MI.
Penny was a 'NANNY" in Ankara when they met. Chuck got discharged,
missed Penny, and returned to Ankara to marry Penelope who is a native Brit.
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HENNING, Mark F 51 E5 32G Det 4, FE72-FE73, (Susan-Navy Vet), 87 Center St., Hamburg, NY14075, 716-648-6582, henninmf@buffalostate.edu

BIO for MARK HENNING

My tour in Turkey wasn’t the happiest time in my life and going to meet a bunch of ASA vets I didn’t know added to the anxiety. It brought back the memories of the year I remember as if it were yesterday. I landed in Ankara on the 13th of February 1972 just before my 21st birthday and proceeded down some of worst roads in the world to Sinop and my new home on "The Hill". I settled in quickly, greeted by the company clerk, a "Radar" type that I only saw once more that year. The guys I worked with were great and were the only reason I was able to survive what was to be the most memorable time, if not one of the worst times in my life. At the two-month mark I got word that my father died. He had been ill but none the less it was still a shock. Got home for the funeral, barely, standing at his graveside with the color guard, he was a WWII vet that took part in the D-Day invasion, right off the plane with a wrinkled uniform and needing a shave. Then it was back to "The Hill" only to have one of our guys hang himself behind the op center. He had been a door gunner from Nam who re-upped for a new MOS to get himself back together. Then there was the constant hassle about drug use. There were MP raids, inspections and CID interviews all the time. It got to be a drag on morale. Going into the 70’s the Army was changing. The Viet Nam guys were GAF and the new guys lacked discipline. We got restricted to the base many times because the Turks were having public hangings in the square in Sinop and it wasn’t the best place for Americans to be. The Turkish soldiers had their formations every morning and looked like they wanted to take our heads off, which they could have easily. Then there were the fly- overs. MIG-23’s and 25’s. We had to report what model MIG we saw to keep track. They would buzz "The Hill" at will and we would "salute" in kind. The Brits had some men kidnapped and murdered in the fall of ’72 by a Turkish terror group and tensions ran high for quite a while till England and Turkey came to some kind of agreement. We had a few perimeter skirmishes around the base putting us on alert fearing that the same group might hit us that hit the Brits. It wasn’t a quiet year to say the least. The Russians blasting over head, the Turks and Brits at war, drug problems and, I know this sounds crazy, UFO’s ringing the mountains to the south and scaring the hell outta the MPs at Hippodrome. Needless to say I still have emotions, good and bad, about the whole time I spent in the Army but never regretted the time spent serving this great Nation. Got sent to Vint Hill Station in Virginia after my tour overseas, needed the change of pace. Hope to see many of you again and everyone stays well. Miss the guys from Det 4 that were there during my time. Maybe see them next time. God Bless. Mark Henning
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CAMMACK, Maurice E3-E5-10NO58 722 Det 27, 57-59, (Katie), 3024 E. Gallman Rd., PO Box 118, Gallman, MS 39077, 601-892-4597, mcammack@direcpc.com - Elder, I am slowly getting over the leg operation and the clot in my leg, and just started catching up on my DOOL readings. It seems, from all accounts I've read, that the reunion was an outstanding success and plans are being made for another get together in 2003. I am going to do all that I can to attend. I may be too late, but do you still have any Det 27 hats and patches left? I would love to get two of each, a set for myself and a set for Tom Stephens. I should have read the postings sooner, but if there are any left, I would like to purchase them. If you can give me the details, or point me to the right person I would appreciate it very much.

Best wishes, and thank you again.
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JONES, Ira DOB 2NO42 E4 Det 4, 62-63, Jacksons Gap, AL 36861, 1-800-633-6282 ext 2172 & 256-839-6787, psherum@madixinc.com -
Ira does not have internet service. His daughter Pam Sherum does and she prints each DAYS OF OUR LIVES issues and takes them to her father every week. She just ordered a Det 27 patch and a Det 4-4 patch as a birthday present for him, even though she knew that he was at Det 4 in SINOP. She wrote that he wasn't able to make it to the Hershey reunion and that the patches might help to make up for his absence. Thanks Pam. Every father should have a daughter as thoughtful as you- - -gH
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DOES ANYONE FROM DET 4 IN 1960 REMEMBER A CAPTAIN ELLIOT? If so, please tell me! The following article I found very interesting and copied it from the internet as it involved a Det 4 Captain with the last name of ELLIOT. The story is by USAF (Ret) MSgt Miller from Barksdale, TX rancherchuck@ricc.net
Gulan's History...Just The Facts - I had the misfortune to be stationed at Samsun twice. Actually, the first tour was voluntary; the second darned sure wasn't. I spent four years in Germany , 56-60, still couldn't make up my mind to re-up or get out, after having extended for one year in Germany. So I extended for another year and went 3-D to Sam, getting a SSgt stripe out of it, with fairly low TIG. I got there in mid-summer of 60, and of course, Gulan (I believe that's the correct spelling, in Turkish) was one of the first things we were shown during our walk-around tour of the base. Gulan's history, as I recall, goes like this: There was an Army Captain from Sinop, who came R&R to Samsun circa 1959, went down town, and got quite drunk. He was stumbling around town and happened upon a Gypsy who had a trained dancing bear. The bear had a cub that he thought was cute as could be. The Army Captain, name of Elliot, bought the cub from the Gypsy, put it in a cab and returned to the site. He was staying in the officer's quarters and he took the cub in there. The story goes that he put the cub in the base commander's room, went to his own room and promptly passed out. The cub proceeded to get sick and mess up the CO's room very badly. The CO was not at all happy about this, and when he found out the story, told the Army Captain to get the Hell back to Sinop, and don't ever show up at Sam again. (Gulan's official name was Captain Elliot). The cub had a ring through his nose, and when I got there, he was fastened by a chain with a snap hook on the end, to a telephone or light pole next to the Softball Field. When he was still fairly small, the guys would load him on the shuttle truck, and take him down to the stretch of beach the AF rented for the troops. Gulan loved to swim in the surf, and the guys would grab a handful of fur and hold on. After a while, Gulan would get tired, and want to take a nap, so they'd snap a chain onto the ring in the shade of a small shack there on the beach. One time, one of the local Turk farmers decided to drive his Ox down across our stretch of beach to cool off in the water. When Gulan woke up and the Ox and the Bear spotted each other, they took off in opposite directions. Fortunately for the Ox, it wasn't tethered by a chain to a ring through its nose. Gulan was...... When he hit the end of the chain, he kept right on going and the ring tore out of the cartilage, between his nostrils. He kept on going, and went into the water. You can imagine how it felt to him to have salt water in that wound. It took about a dozen GIs to wrestle him onto the truck for the return trip to the base. After that, and until the permanent cage was built for him, he had the chain around his neck. But that chafed the hair and skin so was only a temporary solution. You may recall two things about his appearance that this explains. First, the odd appearance to his nose, where the ring was torn out and, secondly, the different color hair around his neck where the chain had rubbed. The only time in 25 years in the AF that I was thoroughly chewed out by a CO was when a guy named Jerry Mooney and I were called on the carpet for going over and feeding Gulan beer. He would have some bodacious hangovers, and would be, quite literally, as grouchy as a bear.

Gulan Gets Revenge

Another interesting story about "Old Gu" was that he severely maimed an Askari (not sure about the proper spelling). There was only one Turk that he could stand; that was an old geezer who would go into the cage with fresh straw, rake the old stuff out of the cinder block shelter at the back of the cage, and replace it with the fresh straw. He and Gulan got along fine, but he hated any other Turk (the smell, I think), and would get visibly agitated, when any Turk came near his cage. In the Early 60's, the Askaris who guarded our antenna field, camped out in a large tent, behind the Motor Pool building, on the west side of the base. They would walk pretty close to Gulan's cage, en route to the antenna field and back. One particularly nasty one would not miss an opportunity to pester Gulan, by poking him with his rifle, or tossing a rock at him. One time (and I witnessed this personally, much to my pleasure), Gulan more or less ignored the Turk Guard. That angered him, so he laid his rifle down and scampered up the side of the cage. Gulan tried to catch him, by climbing up after him, but the Turk would scamper out of reach. I guess Gulan finally realized he couldn't catch him, so he laid down on the cement floor and just watched the Askari. The Turk should have quit while he was ahead, but no-one ever gave them credit for too much cerebral power. He climbed up on top of the cage and was jumping up and down trying to further irritate Gulan. Well, as luck would have it, his foot slipped, and his entire leg went down between the angle iron bars, into the cage. Gulan was up in a flash, climbed his tree, leaned out, took the Turk's foot in his mouth, and swung outwards, putting his entire weight on the Turks leg - and crotch....................Gulan couldn't hold on, 'cause he hardly had any teeth left, as you probably recall, and he slipped off to the floor of the cage. The Turk on top the cage was screaming like crazy. He got his leg out, rolled to the edge of the cage and dropped to the ground. The rest of the Turks hauled him away, back to the tent. I don't believe that we ever saw that particular Turk again, and none of the rest of them ever bothered Gulan again. I went over to the cage, after the Turks left, and I swear Gulan had a smirk on his face. I gave his ears a good scratching, and he seemed as happy as any time I ever saw him. He was quite the character.
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PARSONS, Fred L., DOB: 14 May 1936, SP3, 722 (Comm Spec-Crypto), Det 4, JA58-JA59 & TDY to Det 27, 45d in 63, M/Sgt,USAF(Ret), (Margaret), P.O. Box 308 Iuka, IL 62849, 618-323-3636, f_parsons@msn.com

BIO of Fred L. Parsons

I served at DET 4 from January 1958 until January 1959. Worked in the comm center and generally hated every second of it. My best buddy was John Crisp from Greeley, CO., if memory serves me right. (getting to the point that it doesn't any more). Besides that's over 40 years ago. My wife looks at some of my old pictures and wonders how we ever put up with all of that, especially living in a Jamesway tent. I spent a total of 9 years with ASA, serving at Arlington Hall, Camp Wolters, TX and Rothwesten, Germany. Just returned about a week and a half ago visiting an old friend from AHS and Camp Wolters. He was an old time comm officer by the name of Lester Beaty. At this point in time I would be interested in a TUSLOG reunion. In all the excitement of hearing from someone from the land of squat johns and tubes in the ground I totally forgot to include all the info that you asked for. Namely my rank at Sinop was SP3. I retired as a M/Sgt in the USAF. Unfortunately all old orders from Det 4 have been long lost. I do remember a few names that you may have, John Crisp was my best buddy. He was from Greeley, CO and had served with the 14th AC in Germany on his first hitch. I believe he was an ammo specialist with the 14th. We had a big guy from upstate New York by the name of Lee Van Hosen. I did buddy around with him a little but not that much. I ran across him again at Camp Wolters with the 316th. Dick Jansen was from New York City and I had served a short 6 months TDY with him on the island of Cyprus in 56/57. Dick tried to drink all the wine that they could make in Sinop. You know how it is in the ASA, if you have been in any time at all you always ran across someone you knew. I left the ASA in 1963 and joined the USAF. That was something that I have regretted ever since. Can't cry over spilled milk though so I'll not dwell on that. I did continue to run across ASA people even after I joined the AF. It really is a small world. My wife, Margaret, and I have talked this over for the past few days and the more we talk the more we like the idea. There is one problem though. I have looked over your roster and find very few names from Det 4 and even fewer from the time that I spent there. When I was at Sinop the only aux det we had was the aviation det stationed in Ankara. When I first arrived in Sinop we had only Jamesway tents to live in and did not have wooden buildings until the Marines went into Lebanon in 58. The stone chapel had been started by that time and was very nearly completed by the time I left and I guess we had about 600 people on the hill. Speaking of the aviation Det, they flew L20s and landed on the beach on the east side of the hill. I'm sure that things changed later but we had no real airstrip. I was Stationed with the 319th in the winter of 63 and Det 27 requested help for their commcenter. I went down and stayed 45 days (15 days longer than I was supposed to). I recall one of the first things that I did was burn about 6 file cabinets full of classified material. All the message traffic that they had sent and received for the past two years. I took the opportunity to go back to Sinop to see how things had changed. Boy was I surprised, they had permanent buildings, running water and even pay for the movies. When I arrived the first time. we had showers a couple of times a week, (water was hauled up on the hill) Four holers for latrines and tubes in the ground. Movies were free and included TV movies commercials and all. We had an old dog that used to lay down in front in the theater and a couple of guys would start to howl and he would start up. Needless to say the main form of entertainment was found in the bottom of a bottle of beer can. We couldn't even purchase soda drinks at the club as it was used for mixed drinks. I volunteered for Turkey when I reenlisted in 57. I knew a guy at AHS who had spent the biggest part of the Korean war in Turkey and from what he told me he was billeted in a hotel. That sounded pretty good to me until I finally spent a night in a Turkish hotel. I really did enjoy myself though. I am somewhat of a history buff and the history of our divination was written in that part of the world. C U L 8 R

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