Subject: DAYS OF OUR LIVES #84
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 07:08:38 -0500
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AN OLD FSB FRIEND REMEMBERS ME From: SFC (Ret) Dorssie A.
Melvin, Jr., O5K4HK2K3, Diamondsdad@aol.com Don't know if you remember me, but you
were my first shirt when I was in A company, FS Berlin back
about 72-75. I was a SP5 kilo on A trick (the Aardvark's)
and worked on the Ackman position. I had a room on the
second floor with big Don "the Bear" Byers. I
helped you with setting up the bar in the basement of the
barracks. I did a little painting for you. I was an avid
hearts and spades player and Byers and I were always down there
playing cards. I had a Thai girlfriend that used to hang
out with me there. We called it the Tiger's Den. One
afternoon, down in the Den, you told me that I was going to
stay in the Army for life and I laughed that off and said I was
gettin out at the end of my hitch. Well you were
right; I stayed in for 23 years. I never got to be a
first shirt, but you were the first sergeant that made the
biggest impression on me and years later when I had my own
section or my own platoon, I handled my people using you as
my model of how a real sergeant acted and treated his
people. I will always remember your gruff good humor
and strict fair play. You always treated me with respect,
yet always seemed a little amused by my antics. You also
called me by my trick nickname, " the mouth", and
that may clue you in on who I am better than anything....I
hope you are doing well and have had a good retirement.....I am
enjoying mine. Drop me a line when you get a
chance.
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From: "Dumbo", SP5, 98C, Det 27, JA66-JN67, (Carole),
Severn, MD., lstupid1@starpower.net
The 50's
This will bring back memories.
Were you a kid in the Fifties or earlier? Everybody
makes fun of our childhood!
Comedians joke. Grandkids snicker. Twenty-something's
shudder and say "Eeeew!"
But was our childhood really all that bad? Judge for
yourself: In 1953 The US population was less than 150
million... Yet you knew more people then, and knew them
better... And that was good.
The average annual salary was under $3,000... Yet our
parents could put some of it away for a rainy day and
still live a decent life... And that was good.
A loaf of bread cost about 15 cents... But it was safe
for a five-year-old to skate to the store and
buy one... And that was good.
Prime-Time meant I Love Lucy, Ozzie and Harriet, Gunsmoke
and Lassie... So nobody ever heard of ratings or
filters... And that was good.
We didn't have air-conditioning... So the windows stayed
up and half a dozen mothers ran outside when you fell
off your bike... And that was good.
Your teacher was either Miss Matthews or Mrs. Logan or Mr.
Adkins... But not Ms Becky or Mr. Dan... And that was
good.
The only hazardous material you knew about... Was a patch
of grassburrs around the light pole at the corner...
And that was good.
You loved to climb into a fresh bed... Because sheets were
dried on the clothesline... And that was good.
People generally lived in the same hometown with their
relatives... So "child care" meant
grandparents or aunts and uncles... And that was good.
Parents were respected and their rules were law....
Children did not talk back..... and that was good.
TV was in black-and-white... But all outdoors was in
glorious color....And that was certainly good.
Your Dad knew how to adjust everybody's carburetor... And
the Dad next door knew how to adjust all the TV
knobs... And that was very good.
Your grandma grew snap beans in the back yard... And
chickens behind the garage... And that was definitely good.
And just when you were about to do something really bad...
Chances were you'd run into your Dad's high school
coach... Or the nosy old lady from up the street... Or
your little sister's piano teacher... Or somebody
from Church...
ALL of whom knew your parents' phone number... And YOUR first
name... And even THAT was good! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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REMEMBER....
Send this on to someone who can still remember Nancy Drew,
The Hardy Boys, Laurel & Hardy, Abbott &
Costello, Sky King, Little Lulu comics,
Brenda Starr, Howdy Doody and The Peanut Gallery, The
Lone Ranger, The Shadow Knows, Nellie Belle, Roy and
Dale, Trigger and Buttermilk as well as the sound of
a real mower on Saturday morning, and summers filled
with bike rides, playing in cowboy
land, playing hide and seek and kick-the-can and Simon Says,
baseball games, amateur shows at the local theater
before the Saturday matinee, bowling
and visits to the pool...and eating Kool-Aid
powder with sugar, and wax lips and bubblegum cigars
Didn't that feel good, just to go back and say, Yeah, I
remember that! And was it really that long ago?
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THE MEMORY BOOK STATUS I am slowly chugging away at the 2002 Memory Book
and it should be ready for distribution around the end of
October as I want to include photo's from the Hershey reunion in
it. Immediately after the reunion we are going to Colorado
Springs for two to three weeks to visit our new grandson - TYLER
AUSTIN GREEN.
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From: GLUBKA, Roger A., E1-E3-E1, 72B, Det 27,
FE64-JL65, (CW3 Michelle), PSC 303, BX 25 APO AP 96204-0025
(Korea), glubkar@kornet.net Subject: PATCHES Elder, Well I
made contact with 6/7 embroidery/sewing shops. and the cheapest I
could get those patches made for was 1500 won a piece; that's
about a buck and a quarter with the won rate fluctuating
between 1185 and 1200 to the dollar. That's 100 Det. 27
patches and 100 Det.4-4. I offered them a buck a piece and
none of them would accept that offer. I'm still kicking
myself in the ass for not taking a copy of the patch
to Vietnam with me. Anyway I'm going to Beijing in
Sept. 19-23 but that will be to late by then. Do you or
anyone else have one they could send me as a sample and I
would send it back. I really wanted to buy these on my own
and send them as a gift but it's just not feasible. If
you can come up with a solution let me know! I'm
not going anywhere for a year. I'll keep
you posted. [Roger Glubka has been one of my best fans
since I started with the FOCK Rock series to the present DAYS OF
OUR LIVES series. I sent Roger my Det 27 patch for them to
copy and Roger informs that it would take about a week to get
duplicates made with Det 27 and 4-4 respectively across the top
and get them back to me for distribution at the Hershey
reunion.
IS IT
POSSIBLE THAT NO ONE FROM THE OTHER ASA TURKEY DET'S ARE
INTERESTED IN A PATCH FOR THEIR DET? IF THERE IS, THEN GET YOUR
REQUEST TO ME IMMEDIATELY.
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BIRTHDAYS
Today, the 23rd of August is my 66th BIRTHDAY- - -gH
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From: ISLER, Rod E4 05H Det
4-4,15OC68-69, (Kyuhee), 1703 Mansion Ridge Rd., Annapolis, MD
21401, 410-849-3482, goaisler@aol.com Elder,
Have some bad news for you -- I will now not be able to attend
this years get together as planned. I now have to go
out of town to meet with a foreign customer starting the
13th of September. I did all I could to get
this delayed but since it is a foreign customer we could
not. My company has
been trying to do business with this customer for some time
and now the opportunity came about. I am in the
process now of canceling my Hotel Room and if I owe you any
money just let me know. Please invite me next year
and will try my best to attend. Pass on my sincere
regards to all. Rod Isler ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE ATTACHMENTS
1). Lt Leopold is from Mike Comroe, SP4, 059, Det 27,
61-62, Audubon, PA Roy DesRuisseaux wrote: Elder:
Lt. John Leopold or "The Leeper" as some of the MP's
called him (not to his face of course) was indeed a good guy all
around type as Mike Comroe points out. He pretty much
left us MP's alone and let the NCO's take care of business.
I seem to recall he perhaps went back to the States or was
promoted in the summer of 1962 and no longer was the Provost
Marshall much to the dismay of us MPs. Perhaps Robert
Brown or Allan Chermack could comment on him. 2). SP4
Stuart Smith sent me the letter from Maj Hughes to his parents
& should bring a chuckle from everyone who served under Major
Hughes at Manzarali. I have not found Maj Hughes YET.
3). The Grimes2 photo is a current picture of John W.
Grimes~ ~ ~ See his BIO below
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New veteran finds
D'AUTEUIL,
Michael E E5 05K Det
27, 66-68, (Alyson), CA., 310-377-0516, dauteuil41@aol.com
LEWIS, Lola USN Sinop, 85-86 &89-90, Hawaii, lolitabanana@hawaii.rr.com From: Lola Lewis Subject: SINOP Mr. Green, My
name is Lola Lewis. I just got an email from Jerry Snaper on
Sinop, Turkey talking about a reunion. I was wondering how
to hear about people who were in Sinop. Although I was there
with the Navy in 1985-1986 and 1989-1990.
The second time I believe is where I met
Jerry Snaper. Please let me know what need to do to be put
on a Sinop list or something. [[Lola, I believe that Jerry
Snaper obtained the 13-15 September 2002 Hershey reunion info
from Bill Simons SINOP website. To access it, use www.altavista,com search engine and then when it comes on
the screen, type in Det 4 Sinop Turkey and Bill Simons website
will be the first one listed. I'm certain that you will
enjoy the info that he has posted and you just might find some
old friends. Until recently, Det 4 was no a part of
my ASA leanings, but about 4 months ago it was decided to
bring aboard all Vet's who were part of the SIGINT and ELINT that
were stationed at Det 17, 27 115, 120, 4, 4-2, 4-4, and 66.
I publish a weekly newsletter called DAYS OF OUR LIVES and is
issued via email to over 400 vet's every Friday. I can
add you to the subscriber list if you so desire. I will
send you the latest issue and another with the ASA TURKEY Reunion
info therein. Thanks for inquiring and if you need further
assistance, please ask. Elder RC Green
NAPIER, Reid SP5 058 Tk2 Det 27, MY62-26OC63, (Married & divorced 3 times), 1210 S. M St., Apt 6, Lakewood, FL 33460, 561-585-8826, erin@joesfinancial.com
PAUL, Don SP5 05H Det 4-4, JL68-MY71, (Leslie), dpaul22609@aol.com fm MA per Morrissette My name is Don
Paul and I served in Det 4-4 at Karamursel, Turkey from July 1968
to May 1971. I was on Trick Two as an 058 (ditty-bopper).
My wife Leslie joined me for 15 months. We had a good time. Would
appreciate any former 058's e.mail. Thanks for listening.
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SCREWS, Eldon E7 05K, Det 4 and 4-3, PO Box 127,
Holly Bluff, MS 30988, 662-828-3212, eldonscrews@telepak.net
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INFO ABOUT A FORMER MEMBER OF MANZARALI STATION
From: MURPHY,
Bob E3-E5 058 Det 27 and Det 4, AP61-AP62, (Peg), 7623 Turnbrook
Dr., Glen Burnie, MD 21061, 410-255-0320, murphy@annap.infi.net Elder, I think I mentioned Bill
Brittingham to you in earlier correspondence. He was a
SP5 058 at Det 27 about the same time as me. I can't recall
if I told you that I managed to contact one of his
relatives, who lives in my neighborhood. She said that Bill
is a recluse. He doesn't go anywhere and doesn't talk to
people, generally. I asked her to give him my phone
number and tell him about the reunion. I really
thought I'd get a call from him, but the call never came. I
talked to her several times and twice gave her my phone
number for Bill to call me. I wanted to send him the DOOL
stuff, but she wouldn't give me his address. I'm going to
continue to try to contact him, mainly out of curiosity
about what life events so changed his personality. But
I have this deep, sinking feeling that I should just leave
it alone. Thought you might like this update.
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The
following was sent to me by Mike Comroe, SP4, 059, Det 27, 61-62,
(Jane), Audubon, PA. Mike informs that it was written and
circulated in Operations and in the Barracks during the TREE
GUARD time at Manzarali in 1962. The author is unknown, but
suspect that a 058 from Trick DIRT was the culprit. THE NIGHT WAS
DARK, THE SKY WAS BLUE, AND
ACROSS THE POST THE CAPTAIN
FLEW. HE IS AIRBORNE AND A
RANGER TOO, BUT WHAT IS WORSE
HE'S ALSO NEW. HE WATCHES US
RUN AND DO PT AND TELLS US
"MEN IT PLEASES ME".
WELL, WE'RE ALL TIRED AND MIGHTY
PISSED WHAT DID WE DO TO
DESERVE ALL THIS? WE PULL
GUARD WHEN IT'S WET AND DRY IT'S
ENOUGH TO MAKE A GOOD MAN
CRY. RUN AND RUN AND SCREAM
AND YELL, THEN GO TO OPS AND
WORK LIKE HELL. WE'D ALL THINK
TWICE BEFORE TREASON BUT SIR,
PLEASE GIVE US ONE GOOD REASON. THE
CAPTAIN STOOD THERE FOR AWHILE
THEN LOOKED UP SLOWLY WITH A
SMILE. HE SAID, "DON'T ASK ME
TO EXPLAIN, AS ALL YOUR QUESTIONS
ARE IN VAIN. THIS IS THE
WAY IT'S GOING TO BE THE
REASON BEING IT'S MY POLICY! I
HOPE TO HELL I REMAIN A
STRANGER TO THE AIRBORNE UNIT AND
THE RANGERS. I DON'T WANT TO JUMP
AND RUN, BUT TO GO OUT AT
NIGHT AND HAVE SOME FUN. I
DON'T WANT TO SLEEP IN TREES
AND CRAWL THROUGH SHIT UP TO
MY KNEES. THERE'S ONLY ONE
THING I HOPE TO SEE AND
THAT'S MYSELF OUT AFTER THREE.
TREES
I THINK THAT I SHALL NEVER
SEE
A
FULL GROWN TREE AT SITE 23. A
TREE WHOSE LEAVES ARE FULL
AND GREEN, NOT BROWN AND WITHERED
WITHOUT THEIR SHEEN. A TREE WHOSE
TRUNK IS TALL AND STRAIGHT WITHOUT
A GUARD TO WATCH ITS FATE.
TREES ARE GUARDED BY NEWKS LIKE ME
BUT ONLY A SHORT TIMER WOULD
BREAK A TREE
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The older you get, the tougher it is to lose weight,
because by then your body and your fat are really good
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BIO of Jerry Anderson
SP4, 341.10, Det 27, 56-JN58
Racine, WI I spent the next
two years out of high school in a co-op program, working holidays
and summers from the University of Wisconsin as a detail
draftsman at Racine, Hydraulics. Dropping out of the university
and working full time as a detail draftsman my
draft eligibility level rose. Deciding to enlist
rather then getting drafted I was steered into the ASA and conned
into a four year hitch. Started with basic training in September
1955 at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri then onto Fort Devens in
Massachusetts in December 1955 for language school testing, found
I could not handle English let alone another language! Then in
January 1956 I was off to Camp Gordon (changed to Fort later) and
spent maybe four months at Teletype Repair school (MOS 341), next
Fort Dix and McGuire AFB in New Jersey for a MATS flight to
Frankfort, Germany in May 1956 where I spent my days at SHAPE
Hqtrs. the I.G. Farben building and my nights drinking that
wonderful nectar of Germany. The Army one day came to our group
requesting "volunteers" in my MOS for a new ASA
detachment in Turkey, and against all rules of prudent behavior,
I volunteered for the 18 month assignment! Well now starts my
real adventure as I was pulled for further testing, which took
three days, and Turkey was not notified. I arrive on a Saturday
afternoon, of course AWOL, and nobody to meet me at the Ankara
"International" airport. (I use International for a
little humor) It was the smelliest place I have ever experienced,
then I remember standing outside waiting and hoping that someone
would come to my aid and direct me to where I was supposed to go.
I waited and waited. It was getting late and I decided
that I should get my butt to Ankara and the only visible
transportation was taxi's. I spotted a caravan of Nomads
going by and knew that that was not the way to get to
Ankara. I couldn't imagine what was in store for me next. I
finally hailed a dolmus (taxi - this is before they had a rate
book for Americans) for the ride to Ankara and the
driver took me to a hotel frequented by us "Ugly
Americans" as we 'yankees' were relatively new and openly
disliked, or so it seemed by the TURKS. It was there that I
was introduced to a Turkish-type bathroom. Was, finally, put in
touch (I don't know how) with a Captain who picked me up on
Sunday morning and took me up to a sorta nice Villa (Turkish
standards) that 6 or 7 of the guys had rented. I lived
there for a short time, then moved to the billets that the AF had
constructed, I think, near the American Embassy. I
can't for the life of me remember the Captains name, but remember
babysitting his young daughter and have a picture of the little
tyke. There was a Major there too, but can't remember his name.
Also a young lieutenant who because of his junior status among
the JUSMMAT higer-ups usually spent his off-duty time playing
bridge with us EM. There was a older gentleman who was in
charge of the Comm Center and his name might have been CWO
Diehl. I remember a black Sgt was the NCOIC of the Comm
Center and have been told that his name was Ron Crocheron.
I believe that the senior NCO at Det 27 from 1956 to
1957 was a SFC Ray Gazolla (sp?) who took a liking to me
because I always steered him away from the Club where he did his
drinking. When he rotated, he told me that if I needed any
assistance in getting a good stateside assignment to contact
him. I did and got stationed at Two Rock Ranch which was a
haven for Major's, etc. The Supply Sgt was a LIFER, but can't
remember his name. Other names that I recall at Det 27 were
Tim Connelly and George or Joe Goeble. A Dick Nilsson, from
Muskego, WI called and we talked about the early "Ugly
American" days in the making of the future 15th USASA Field
Station, aka Det 27, Site 23 and Manzarali Station.
We were the ASA pathfinders in Det 27's embryonic days I want everyone to know that the 'historians'
completely overlooked us guys in their write-up when they show
that Det 27 was organized under TD 93-8623, dated 1 October 1957.
That might be the official date, but we were definately members
of the ASA and Det 27 was on our orders. The historian
further states that Det 27 was put into operation on 26 December
1957 with an authorization of 3 Officer's and 15 EM. That was
about the size of the unit when I was there 56-58 and we all were
associated with the Comm Center. The initial location of
the detachment was in the JUSMMAT Hqs complex. On 01 February
1958, the detachment moved from the JUSMMAT complex to the new
Hqs bldg located at 329A and 331A Ataturk Blvd across from the
American Embassy. It was known as Det 4-1. So from this point in
1956 to my departure in May 1958 are some of the best days of my
life, and better told in private! Arriving home (6/58)
married my sweetheart Sally and spent our Honeymoon traveling to
my next assignment, Two Rock Ranch in Petaluma, California. I got
there early on a weekend and went for a look-see noticing a trap
shoot in progress. I stopped and entered the Turkey shoot and won
a live bird! That was my introduction to what I refer to as a
Retirement Home, and I had a wonderful time there till my
discharge in Oakland, California.(9/59). I went back into
Hydraulics first as a Draftsman, then Sales Engineer, into a
Regional Sales Managers position working for these companies,
Racine Hydraulics, Rucker Products, Bosch, and retiring from The
Ellwood Corp. in March of 1999. I'm looking forward to
seeing everyone at Hershey and maybe someone will jog my memory
from the past to the present. I will have pictures of Connelly,
Goeble, Gazolla, and Sgt. George Kerns NCOIC of maintenance which
I just found, by Wed. 8/21. I can get them in the mail to you the
same day which will put them your house on or about 8/24, will
this be soon enough to make #84?
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"It isn't the burdens of today that drive men mad. It
is the regrets over yesterday and the fear of tomorrow.
Regret and fear are twin thieves who rob us of today." ~
Robert J. Hastings
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BIO John
W. Grimes III
Grimes, John W. III, RA16781472, E3-E4, 98C20, Det. 27, JL64-DE65
See attached photo Enlisted in the Army at Fort
Wayne, MI in August 1963, after completing three years at Ferris
State College in Big Rapids, MI. Took Basic Training
at Fort Leonard Wood, MO., then in October 1963 I was off to join
the elite ASA'ers at Fort Devens, MA for training as a Traffic
Analyst which I completed in April 1964 and now was known as a
982.20 and received orders for a place called TUSLOG Detachment
27 in Turkey. Over the Thanksgiving break of 1963 I became
engaged to Miss Dianne Daunt of Flint, MI. ARRIVED
AT MANZARALI IN JULY 1964 AS A TRAFFIC
ANALYST In July 1964 I joined Det 27 at Manzarali
Station, Turkey and went to work on one of the Tricks as a
Printer and Floor T/A specialist in operations. I was never
a good writer of T/A reports and this BIO will attest to
that fact; however, I'm giving it my best shot.
GOT
HITCHED AT THE MANZARALI CHAPEL
In February 1965
Miss Daunt flew to Turkey and Father Butler married us in
the Manzarali Chapel with the help of Chaplain
Polhemus. We immediately found an apartment at
39 Kennedy Caddessi near the American Embassy. Our marriage
was a no brainer from the start and lasted only three
months. In May 1965 Dianne returned to the states and I
completed the rest of my Tour of Duty in the barracks at
Manzarali Neither of us remarried and I have not seen
Dianne in over twenty-five years. I said
gule, gule to Turkey in December 1965 for assignment to the 6th
USASAFS at Homestead AFB, Florida. I was at Homestead
from January 1966 until my discharge in June
1967. During the summer of 1967 I
returned to college at Northern Michigan Univ., but my heart was
not in it for many reasons, one being that Dianne and I were
divorced in July 1967. In the fall of 1967 I started
working for the Realtron Corp in the Detroit area and became the
Admin Assistant to the President, where I worked until
1970. In January 1970 I became General Manager for a
group of investors that had purchased a Car Wash in Midland,
MI. In July 1970 went to work with Boutell Enterprise
as Development Manager in which I procured land, designed and
built several car wash locations. Next, the Kar Klean
Equipment Co., hired me as VP of Engineering and I worked for
them for two years or so building car washes in Southeast,
Michigan. After this, I started a Service and Equipment Co
with a partner and it was known as "Grimes Enterprises,
LTD". Over the next 25 years I have owned, operated,
designed, built and serviced many Full Service Car Washes in
Michigan, Ohio and Arizona. In 1995 I became Plant
Manager to Proto-Vest, Inc., a manufacturer of Air Dryers to the
Car Wash Industry in a small plant in Oxford, MI and was
instrumental in moving the plant to a larger facility in
Glendale, AZ. In July 1997 I left Proto-Vest and went back
into business for myself again, this time as a Laundromat
Owner. In April 2002 I sold this business. Will see you in
Hershey on the 13th. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you ever notice: When you put together "THE"
and "IRS," it spells "THEIRS?" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bob VAN EREM, SP4, Radar Intercept Op, Det 4,
OC59-OC60, (Fran), Olney, MD., rje@erols.com Bob sent the following to Howard
Stephers apparently thinking that he was the originator of the
DAYS OF OUR LIVES newsletters: "Thank you for your
newsletter #82. I know you asked me then what my MOS
and ASA assignment was in Turkey. I do not remember what my
MOS was, and I do not have any of my paper work from back
then. I think my MOS was 204, but I am not sure.
I worked in the operations building, which as I remember it
was on the left side of the operations complex.
My duties were as a Radar Intercept Operator. Perhaps
you or someone else would know what that MOS is. I
took my training at Fort Monmouth in NJ. I
see VET's in the DAYS OF OUR LIVES newsletter
mention many different places in Turkey. Most
mentioned is Det 27. Where were the other places ASA
people where stationed in Turkey, other then
Sinop.
A SHORT BIO ON BOB VAN EREM
I'm a native of Green Bay, WI. Enlisted in December
1958 and did Basic Training at Fort Lenoard Wood,
MO., then in March 1959 to Fort Devens, MA. - then
in May 1959 did AIT at Fort Monmouth, NJ., then back
to Fort Devens in August 1959 where I received orders for Sinop,
Turkey where I served October 1959-October
1960. October 1960-March 1962 was stationed in Germany, with
the 77th out of Rothwestern, outside of Kassel, then up to
build the site at Dahme and back to Offenbach after we were
married in Frankfurt. My wife is from Teaneck, NJ, we
met when I was at Fort Monmouth. She came over
to Germany and we were married there. I stayed in the
Electronics field after I got out of the service and now I
am semi-retired, but still have my own business. I export
used electronic test equipment to Europe. Let me know
if any other guys from the ASA live around the
Maryland area, I would like to get together with
them. Look forward to seeing you at the reunion
in Hershey.
From: "HOWARD C
STEPHENS, SR", (Steve), SP4, Det 27, DE60-SE62, (Judy),
Rochester Hills, MI., howardstephenssr@prodigy.net Robert Van Erem, - Good to
hear from you - and to know that another one of our old
cold warriors still survives! I appreciated your
taking the time to provide a little on your ASA
background. Actually, you are among the few that I
have been in contact with, who were actually stationed in
Turkey back in the days when Dwight Eisenhower was still our
Commander-In-Chief! That's going back a ways! I
was assigned from December 60 to September 62 to Det 27 HQ, which
was located at Site 23 outside of Ankara. Det 66 was
there also. In addition to Det 4 at Sinop, I can't
remember many of the other Det No's. Sorry, it's just
been so very, very long ago. I returned to the U.S. in
September 62 and was station with the 313th ASA Bn at
Ft. Campbell, KY, until my discharge in July 63. I
returned to my native Michigan, where I have remained all
these years. I married in April 66 and had 3 beautiful
children - which now include 6 grandchildren. We live
in Rochester Hills, just north of Detroit. Being from
Michigan, I don't have many contacts in Maryland, I will
"cc" our fearless leader, Elder RC Green, and see
if he can provide any contacts in the Maryland area.
He's got a lot of contact info and I am sure he'd be happy
to share. Hope you and your family are enjoying life the way
it's supposed to be lived. Have a great
day! Howard "Steve" Stephens
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From: Web Smith
Subject: Fw: Meredith Gardner, 89, Who Broke Code in
Rosenberg Case, Dies.htm
From: Julian Hargus By
DAVID STOUT
WASHINGTON, Aug. 16 — Meredith Knox Gardner, a linguist and
puzzle solver whose skill at deciphering codes played a pivotal
role in the Rosenberg spy case, died on Aug. 9 at a hospice in
Chevy Chase, Md. He was 89.
Fluent in French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Latin, Lithuanian, Spanish and Russian, Mr. Gardner arrived here early in World War II to work for the Army Signal Intelligence Service, a predecessor of the National Security Agency.
He spent the war poring over messages between Germany and Japan. After their defeat, his focus turned to the Soviet Union. He was assigned to help decode a backlog of communications between Moscow and its foreign missions. The project, named Venona, was based in northern Virginia. In recent years, the National Security Agency has made public some of the exploits of the code breakers.
Starting in 1939, the Signal Intelligence Service intercepted thousands of Soviet communications, but they were not studied while America and Russia were allied. By 1946, Mr. Gardner was among the hundreds of people trying to decode the accumulated messages.
On Dec. 20, 1946, Mr. Gardner discerned that a message from 1944 had contained a list of the leading scientists on the Manhattan Project, which developed the atomic bomb. More months of toil by Mr. Gardner and his colleagues turned up a reference to an agent code-named Liberal who had a wife named Ethel.
"Liberal" and his wife were Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, who were convicted of conspiracy to commit espionage. They were executed in 1953.
Mr. Gardner worked closely with Robert J. Lamphere, an F.B.I. agent who was assigned to chase spies. Mr. Lamphere marveled at his partner's decoding talents.
"I would bring Meredith some material, and he would print in a new word over a group of numbers," Mr. Lamphere said in 1996 in an interview with The Washington Post. "Then he would give a little smile of satisfaction."
Mr. Gardner attributed his code-solving talents to his language abilities, sense of logic and, as he told The Post in 1996, "a sort of magpie attitude to facts, the habit of storing things away that did not seem to have any connection at all."
Meredith Knox Gardner was born in Okolona, Miss. He graduated from the University of Texas and earned a master's degree in languages from the University of Wisconsin. He was a language teacher at the Universities of Akron, Texas and Wisconsin before World War II.
Surviving are his wife, Blanche; a son, Arthur, of Milwaukee; a daughter, Ann Martin of Annapolis, Md.; and 11 grandchildren.
Mrs. Gardner said her husband, after retiring in 1972, loved to solve the crossword puzzles in The Times of London, which are noted for being extremely difficult. He also traced his Scottish genealogy, disdaining computers for the pencil and paper that he had used to attack codes.
Because the Venona project was not disclosed in detail until the mid-1990's, its work was never widely recognized. In a speech in 1997, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York said the deeds of Mr. Gardner and Mr. Lamphere, in particular, were contributions "that Americans have a right to know about and to celebrate." Mr. Lamphere died in February.
Despite his pride in having helped to smash an espionage ring, Mr. Gardner was sorry that the Rosenbergs were put to death. Mrs. Gardner said her husband's reasoning was that "those people at least believed in what they were doing.
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From:
FINK, Raymond G E3-E4 Det 27, DE62-MY64, Opns Co clk,
(Gail), 6873 Packingham Dr., Englewood, OH 45322,
937-836-2269, finkgnr@earthlink.net
- I have never seen, but perhaps I missed,
any contact with Gary Borden, who was at Det 27 about the same
time as myself ie. 25DE62 to 15MY63... Do you have an address or
email for him that I missed on one of the DAYS OF OUR
LIVES?? Thanks, [[Ray. This is the 1st
mention of a Gary Borden. I found 33 Gary Bordens in
switchboard.com loc in AL; CA; FL; IN; MD; MI; MS; NY; OH; OK;
PA; TN; TX; VA; WA and WI. A middle initial might reduce
the 33 number.
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From: William Cook, Sr.
Subject: Re: ASA TURKEY REUNION INFO, etc
Thank
you for your quick response and for the information. I have
a few questions if you don't mind. How old is your
organization and how many "Members" do you have
currently? Do have information broken down by location and tour
years? Just curious as to how many might have been there at
the same time as I. I arrived in Ankara in April
of 1963, served @ Manzarali Station and departed in
October of 1964. I was an 058 [later changed to
05H20?] or something like that. We had a flying club that built
and flew control line airplanes. I have recently located 2 of my
roommates from that time period and have had the pleasure of
spending some time with one of them. I don't know
if I've become aware of this opportunity in time to take
advantage of it. But I would like to keep in touch and
possibly attend a future reunion if not this one. Thanks
again... Bill Cook RA 15675174
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From: Tom Fittante EG I WON'T KNOW UNTIL MONDAY
8/26/02 IF I CAN ATTEND THE REUNION. IF I AM ABLE TO ATTEND
I'LL PROBABLY COME ALONE, FOR MY WIFE HAS A COMMITMENT FOR THAT
WEEK END. I WILL ALSO BE STAYING WITH RELATIVES IN THE AREA
IN LIEU OF THE HOLIDAY INN. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: g_jorgensen@hotmail.com gH, we just came back from
a day drive in Northern Minnesota (saw a nice bull moose) and
forwarded the DOOL #83. Also I added Willie Modisette to my list
of guys to forward to. One month and you will be able to go on
straight time and no overtime with this project. Gary
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From: MANKOPF, Oscar M (Mike), SP4, 76T-Sig Supply, Det
27, MY67-DE67, Det 4-3, Dec67-OC68, 525 Hoppfield Dr.,
Arlington Hts, IL 60004, 847-368-9792, mark6696@peoplepc.com I am replying to the quote
at the start of #83. If you and Stuart think of our country
in terms of left and right I think you have missed the whole
point of our democracy. I didn't fight in Vietnam for one
groups point of view. Suppressing another groups point of
view is what the Soviets did. There is a lot more to being
patriotic that wearing flag pins. Mark Mankopf, CW2
USAR, Ret
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From: BURNS, Paul H Jr 95K Det 4, 64 & 66, 113 Notre
Dame, Lafayette, LA 70506, uodfa@aol.com Dear Elder,
Thanks for the response, I'm sorry I didn't tell you
when I came aboard. In fact the first message I
deleted, becasue I didn't know from where it came, and
that's my habit, not opening e-mails from unknown senders. I
don't remember the first one I opened. My wife and I won't
be able to make it to the reunion, she's a special ed
teacher, and it is smack dab in the middle of school time,
and I'm out of vacation time this year. I do the same
thing you describe, copy and paste interesting tidbits from
DOOL to disk. I guess I'll just continue, since Det 4
Sinop came on-line not that long ago. Thanks for
getting this group together, after many years, I guess
we all want to look back and see where we've
been. Thanks again, Paul Burns Tuslog Det
4, Summer 64-65 Summer 66-67
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From:
DUBICKI, Walter L E5 Det 27 DE61-JN63 05H/K Trick Chief #1,
(Beverly), 6701 Tamarind Ct., Louisville, KY 40219, 502-969-1534, WLMD40@aol.com
I'm Fine - How
are you?
There's nothing the matter with me,
I'm just as healthy as can be,
I have arthritis in both knees,
And when I talk, I talk with a wheeze.
My pulse is weak, my blood is thin,
But I'm awfully well for the shape I'm in.
All my teeth have had to come out,
And my diet I hate to think about.
I'm overweight and I can't get thin,
But I'm awfully well for the shape I'm in.
And arch supports I need for my feet.
Or I wouldn't be able to go out in the street.
Sleep is denied me night after night,
But every morning I find I'm all right.
My memory's failing, my head's in a spin.
But I'm awfully well for the shape I'm in.
Old age is golden I've heard it said,
But sometimes I wonder, as I go to bed.
With my ears in a drawer, my teeth in a cup,
And my glasses on a shelf, until I get up.
And when sleep dims my eyes, I say to myself,
Is there anything else I should lay on the shelf?
The reason I know my Youth has been spent,
Is my get-up-and-go has got-up-and-went!
But really I don't mind, when I think with a grin,
Of all the places my get-up has been.
I get up each morning and dust off my wits,
Pick up the paper and read the obits.
If my name is missing, I'm therefore not dead,
So I eat a good breakfast and jump back into bed.
The moral of this as the tale unfolds,
Is that for you and me, who are growing old.
It is better to say "I'm fine" with a grin,
Than to let people know the shape we are in.
I AM FINE HOW ARE YOU ?
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From:
CHESSER, Joe E4 Postal Clk Det 27, 60-61, (Helen), 21563 Awbrey
Pl., Ashburn, VA 20148, 703-729-1229, joseph_clay_chesser@msn.com Subject:
Military Appreciation
Lets take just a moment to show the men and women who are
defending our country that we really appreciate what they are
doing for ALL OF US!
This takes about 20 seconds.
If you are so inclined, visit the Department of Defense web page
below and sign a brief message thanking the men and women of the
U.S. military services for defending our freedom. The
compiled list of names will be sent out to our soldiers at the
end of the month. As of a moment ago, there were
less than 500,000 names. A shame. http://www.defendamerica.mil/nmam.html -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The 7 Second Prayer
Just
repeat this phrase and see how God moves!!
Lord, I love you and I need you, come into my heart,
and bless me, my family, my home, and my friends,
in Jesus' name. Amen.
PS~ remember waking up is a miracle for some people so don't take
it for
granted.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From:
GLUBKA, Roger A E1-E3-E1 72B Det 27, FE64-JL65, (CW3 Michelle),
PSC 303, BX 25 APO AP 96204-0025 (Korea), glubkar@kornet.net
Nominated for Quote of the Year is the statement made by Texas
Congressman Dick Armey when asked: "If you had been in
President Clinton's place would you have resigned?"
Armey's reply: "If I had been in the president's place
I would not have gotten the chance to resign. I would have
been lying in a pool of my own blood, looking up and listening to
my wife say "How do you reload this thing?"