Days of Our Lives # 77 - July 19, 2002. (Condensed edition) 

e-mail changes
From: Buzz Gamble, Det 27, 66-67, gamble@pocketmail.com Please change my email address to - bgamble@saturn.caps.maine.edu
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ANDRONACO, Mike, E5, Special Services, Det 27, JL65-JA67, (Lorraine), 60 Catella Rd., Essex Junction, VT., 05452, 802-878-5911, landronaco@msn.com . Mike is 59 and has been on the Master Roster for a long time and just recently his email address became known and am waiting for his BIO.
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OBERBROECKLING, Robert G. (OB). See below for details from LTC, Ret Vannoy: From: Claude E. Vannoy, 03-04, Det 27, JN65-JN68, (Ginny), North Wildesboro, NC., vace@charter.net  Cc: Robert G Oberbroeckling Hey Elder,  Here is a new one for you.  Major "OB" Robert G. Oberbroeckling, Commander, Det 4-2, Adana, Turkey, 1965-1967. This was the ASA Det that manned the Navy Acft. His address is: 14341 W. Patrick Henry Rd. Doswell, VA 23047-2058, (804) 883-5751,  c21ob@aol.com OB was also CO of Det-4  around 72-73 time frame.  He would like information on the Hershey Reunion and would like for you to mail him a copy of your Master Roster. He would like to establish contact with Lt. Clifford Faith that was at Det 4-2 and he thinks may be in Calif???  There was also WO Stewart  ( ? first name) at Det 4-2. If anyone has contacts with either, ask them to contact OB. Claude ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------                                 
IN SICK BAY I talked with Toni Rissi the other nite and she told me that her husbands, Bill Risse, health is not too good. Bill Risse was a Captain, then was promoted to Major as the Company Commander of Co A, Det 27, 64-66. Toni is now his caretaker and breaks her
heart to see his dimentia turn slowly to the A word.  I'm Sure that they would enjoy hearing from any of their old friends from Manzarali.  Send get well cards to: Bill and Toni Risse, 4045 Salem Square Court, Palm Harbor, FL 34685 or call 727-789-0661 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
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MISSEY - From Bonnie Cooper came word that Joseph Missey had died of cancer 11 March 2002.  According to Burt Slesinger files Joe had served in the following ASA organizations (in chronological order starting in 1955):126th ASA Det 4, Okinawa; 126th ASA Co, Japan;  12th FS, Japan;  Fort Devens (4x); TUSLOG Det 27, Turkey; 319th USASA Bn, Germany; 8th RRFS,Thailand; 3rd FS, Okinawa; and,  Fort Leonard Wood, MO.    MULLIN - I learned at FASAF 2002 that COL George Robert Mullin had passed away in October 1989.  He had a long and distinguished 22-year career in ASA with assignments in: Monterey, CA; Arlington Hall Station, VA; Fort Devens, MA; Bamberg, Herzogenaurach & Frankfurt, Germany;  NSA; Fort Clayton, Panama; and Sinop, Turkey. [It was LTC Mullin who presided over my promotion to E-8 at Ft. Devens.- - -gH]
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                                      BIO's
                                    BIOGRAPHY OF JAMES Q. NOLAN
                                BORN 24 NOV 1925 IN SOUTHWEST, PA   Raised and educated through high school in Greensburg, Pa. Drafted into the Army on 28 Dec 1943 and ended up staying for over 25 years.  Received my basic training at Fort Lee, Va. After basic and a short leave(during which time I got married) I was shipped to the European Theater and was assigned to the 117th General Hospital.  Returned stateside in Aug 1945 and was assigned to Fort Dix, N. J.  During this period I was promoted to T/Sgt and became a new Father to a great little boy.  At this point I decided along with my wife Rita to make the Army my career.  Received orders in 1947 for shipment to Alaska where I was assigned to the Quartermaster Section, Hq's US Army, Alaska as the Quartermaster Sgt Major. I was promoted to  M/Sgt in  1948. In  June 1950 while rotating back stateside all military personnel where extended for 12 months.  Reassigned to Fort Dix and promoted to Warrant Officer.  I was the Chief of the Food Processing Division, which included the Central Meat Cutting Plant, Bread and Pastry Bakeries and Ration Breakdown providing food to 57 individual Mess Halls feeding in excess of 58,000 troops.  My time to go to Korea came up in 1952 and I was assigned as the Cl II & IV Officer, Quartermaster Section, Korean Base Section. Nov 1953 I was transfered to Japan and assigned to the Japan Petroleum Depot in Yokahama as the Depot Property Officer with additional duty of Civilian Personnel Officer. My family, wife and two childern,  joined me in Japan in June 1954.  In June 1955 returned stateside and was assigned to the Petroleum Department, Quartermaster School, Fort Lee, Va. as a student in the
Officer's Petroleum Supply and Analysis Course. Upon completion of the course and because I was the Honor Graduate I was selected to go on industry training  for four months with the Plantation Pipeline Company in the Southeastern United States. After industry training, back to the QM School for duty as a Petroleum Instructor with additional duties as Department Supply Officer and Project Officer for a training film (Maintenance of Petroleum Pipeline). The films was shot at Fort Lee and Craney Island, Va and put together at the Army Pictorial Center in Long Island, N. Y.  In Jan 1958 I received an alert  that I was to get orders for an assignment in Germany.   I was assigned to the Quartermaster Section, Hq's Seventh Army as Chief of and was briefed the Personnel and Administrave Division and was responsible for the assignment of QM Officers and Warrant Officers coming to Germany from the USA. I was promoted to CW3 in June 1958.  Upon completion of my tour in Germany I was once again reassigned back to Fort Lee wher I became the S-4 of the QM School Troop Command, with additional duty of Food Advisor.                   
MY  LONE ASA ASSIGNMENT WAS AT MANZARALI STATION Finally in Mid 1963 I was notified that I would be getting an ASA assignment in Turkey in Jan 1964. Upon arrival in Turkey complete with three childern I spent the first couple of days renting a apartment.  Reported into Det 27 and was briefed by Col Barton and Butler.  Col Butler stated that I would assist him in conducting inspections of all the troops and facilities in a pre IG inspection. I was supposed to  be the Property Book Officer, but Col Butler talked Col Barton into keeping me in S-4 as the assistant. The assignment ended up being great, really enjoyed it, never worked harder and enjoyed it more. Lt Col Dooley was a great person to work for and as far as he was concerned I could do no wrong. I conducted every S-4 briefing that was given during the time I was there. Then too I along with Lt Col Jim Hunt and Whitlock did the first study on the closing of Det 27.  The project was so highly classified that the need to know was between the three of us and Col Barton and Butler.  I remember Col Barton telling Dooley that he was not to ask me what I was working on. During my assignment I had additional duties of Food Service Advisor  and Laundry & Dry Cleaning Officer.  At one time for a couple of months I was the Post Signal Officer and the Engineer Accountable Officer.  I did not get to know many people in operations but knew all the support personnel. I will enjoy seeing and talking to all that come to the reunion.  We, my wife and children lived in Ankara and in spite of the living conditions we enjoyed our tour.  My wife was an avid golfer and bowler.  Promoted to CW4 in Sep 1964.  Upon completion of my Turkey tour I was returned to the USA, for assignment to the Continential Army Command Fort Monroe, Va.  I was the assistant Post S-4, primarily concerns were the Commissary Operations and the Property Book.  I applied for retirement in Sep but the Army disapproved it saying the needs of the service made it necessary to retain me for another 12 months. The disapproval came back in December and I had orders for Vietnam in January.  I actually went to Vietnam in May l967. While inVietnam I was the Stock Control and Budget Advisor to
the Vietnamese Engineer Depot.  I was  a member of MACV Advisory Team 101.  In May 68 I was reassigned back to the Quartermaster School, Subsistence Department as the Budget and Supply Officer.  I applied for  retirement again in February 1969 to be retired in August 1969. This time  it was approved and my retirement date was 1 Aug 1969.
                                              Awards and Decorations Bronze star with 2 oak leaf clusters, Army Commendation Medal with 3 oak leaf clusters, Good Conduct Medal, American and European Medals, WWII Victory Medal, Army Occupation Medal, Reserve Medal with one oak leaf cluster, Korea Service Ribbon with 2 battle stars, Vietnam Service Ribbon with 3 battle stars, United Nations Ribbon, Vietnam Honor Medal, Vietnam Army Engineer Badge. Korean Presidential Medal.
In Oct 1970 I went to work for Philip Morris in Richmond. I worked in the Controllers Department until April 1984. A great job, good salary,excellent benefits and a great company. I then decided that I still had some good years left so I decided to do volunteer work. I worked as a counselor for The Service Corp of Retired Executives (SCORE), Director and Vice President of the Southside Virginia Retired Officers Association, Financial Advisor with the Army Community Service and  the local Catholic Church.  In 1997 I decided to give it all up in order that my wife and I could do some more traveling.  Traveling we have done, Europe, South America, numerous Cruises and a trip cross country to Seattle, then from Vancover, B. C. we drove across Canada, a good eight week trip.  Many shorter trips within the states and
were still planning on more.
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From: "Nelson Murray" SP5, 058, Det 27, SE60-JL62, (Sandy), Houston, TX., nmurraymx@hotmail.com I was hoping that things would slow down a bit, but it looks like I will be unable to make the reunion in Hershey this September.  We have just moved from Mexico to Houston and are still recovering and settling in.  I regret that I will be unable to attend and would definitely be interested in attending next year, however, if the group decides to do that. Are you or someone compiling data to include in some kind of reunion book or something like that?  I've seen a couple of items referring to BIO's, but somehow I seem to have missed the details on that.  I would be happy to send any information if I know what you're looking for.  Also, I would really like to get a copy of anything that you put together, especially contact names and info.
Hope to see you in the future. Thank you for all that you are doing to make this happen.
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From: "Don Salcido", SP5, 05H, Det 27, 66-67, Chula Vista, CA., dsalcido2@cox.net Here is my REUNION schedule.  I will be renting a full size car from Enterprise. If anyone requires a ride to or from the Hotel I would be happy to assist them.
Outbound:
NorthWest 936K 12SEP TH LAXDTW   200A  921A
NorthWest 5892K 12SEP TH DTWMDT 1020A 1155A
Arriving in Harrisburg 1155A
Return:
NorthWest 1461K 15SEP SU MDTDTW   915A  1044A
NorthWest  933K 15SEP SU DTWLAX 1210P  212P
Leaving Harrisburg  9:15A [Don is from the San Diego area and attended the 2001 Ft Devens reunion.  He stayed in the San Diego Airport and caught the 1st east bound flight to depart that airport after the 9/11 shutdown.  He flew into Pittsburgh, then caught a flight to Hartford, CT where he rented a car and drove to Fort Devens.  Don is a dedicated veteran- - -gH] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Philip W Kelly Subject: Turf Club dinner, Elder, -  Somewhere along the line I may have missed out on some information. For awhile (not anymore) I didn't get email from you and was wondering if you covered the subject of the dinner cost at the Turf club. I don't think I made any reservations there. Do you require an advance on that? Is there a choice of food?  Sorry if this is something that you've been over and over, but, like I said, I missed out on some of the mailings. Regards,Phil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: WDDCBENDER@comcast.net Dear Elder: As I now know, I already have my reservations at the Holiday Inn! The check is in the mail today, and I'll be out of the country until July 28th. I'm off to the UK tomorrow, get back Thursday 19th and then leave 10 hours later for the Cayman Islands!  I come back tanned, relaxed, and ready for my sons wedding on the 10th of August. I like being the father of the groom. I don't have any responsibilities!!!!! Best Regards -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Ralph Richter, SP5, 05K, Det 27, 66-67, Columbus, OHRicRalph@aol.com> What activities at the reunion do you think are OK for Lee to attend, Top.  She's five.  Thinking about the Saturday evening dinner at Penn National  Race Track-- some of those establishments don't allow children, and that's OK with us.  Just trying to put together our agenda before I send you the money. 
Thanks.[Ralph-It's okay for Lee to be at the Turf Club for the meal and there is no charge for her meal- - -gH] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Don Tarr, SP5, Det 66, 66-67, dtarr@njea.org. Merhaba Elder:  I may be able to attend, or at least drop by, but my work schedule is such that I’m not certain at this point.My daughter-in-law is from Carlisle, (although my son and daughter-in-law live near Pittsburgh) they sometimes visit her folks in Carlisle, which is just a hop, skip, and jump from Hershey. I live in Edison, New Jersey – about 2 ½ hrs. from Hershey by car. I may be able to take off a day and drop by. I wish a few guys from Det 66 were coming.  Although I knew a number of guys from Det 27, my closest friends were from my outfit, 66.  I’ve tried to reach out through the internet and locate some of them, but they haven’t jumped into Days of Our Lives like you guys from Det 27.  Thanks for calling, friend.  I truly enjoy reading from “Days of our Lives.”  It brings back memories that seem like just yesterday, even though for me it’s been 35 years since that sunny day on October 15, 1967 that I walked off Site 23, took the carry all to Esenboga and boarded Pan Am – first to Paris for 5 days and then Ft. Hamilton for discharge. Good luck.  Good Health.  Talk to U soon….....dt kkkkkkkk---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Dave Althouse" Sp5, Supply, Det 27, 66-68, (Rose), Reading, PA., DAlthouse@TRSINC.ORG I PLAN ON DRIVING TO HERSHEY FOR THE DAY WITH A COUPLE LOCAL FELLOWS FROM DET 27 & DET 4 THEN RETURN HOME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "james q nolan", CW4, S4, Det 27, JA64-JN66, (Rita), Hopewell, VA., jimmy1905@juno.com Hi Elder -  Talked to Col Homer Butler the other night and he told me they could not make the reunion. They are in the process of selling there home in Pileups, NC  and  moving to Silver Springs, MD.  Hope all is going well, I can imagine that your really working hard to insure the success of the reunion.  I sponsored two of our WI reunions but would not do it again.
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From: Preston White, E5, MP, Det 27, 66-68, (Louise), Cheshire, CT., PLWhite570@aol.com  Elder, - I plan to attend the Hershey reunion in September but haven't made hotel reservations because I work for a company located in the general area.  They have a guest house so I plan to stay there.  I plan to attend with my wife, also a former resident of Site 23. Regards, [Note: Louise was a Manzarali brat as her father was CT1 (E6) Louis Cordeiro who was with Det 115 at Manzarali 1966-68. Louis died in 1989 and his widow, Tina, lives in Somerset, MA- - -gH]
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From: Julian Hargus, SP4, 711/059,  Det 27, 60-62, (Linda), Jefferson City, MO., ziphargus@yahoo.com Subject: Ted Nelson Elder, Navato is just a few miles from SF. I was stationed at Two Rock (Petaluma) and my son was born at Hamilton Air Force base (Navato) which was half way between Petaluma and San Francisco. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Norman Mau, SP4, Det 27, JA65-JN66, (Theresa), Potomac, MD., maun@yahoo.com    ER,  Sorry to bother you again.  Per the instructions, I am planning to go up Friday morning with the
intention of golfing in afternoon, if I can walk on at a local course. Theresa is not planning on attending. I mailed the Dinner check this AM. I am interested in Golf for Saturday too. Thanks, ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Allan J. Bagnall, SP5, 058, Det 27, MR-OC61 and Det 4, OC61-JN62, New Freedom, PA., AllanCCCC@aol.com> Hi.. We have just returned from a trip to England and would like more information on the Hershey reunion.. As it stands now I/we will attend but because we live in New Freedom/Shrewsbury we will not
need any rooms. Please give me a web address of a place where I can get the activity schedule..Is there a Stan Dilly coming from Michigan. Thanks
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From: "Daryl Waite", SP4, Det 66, DE63-JA65, (Hope), Carthage, IL., k9jpq@hotmail.com Elder:  Received a suspicious message recently.  It was from a "Mauler" and was apx 127K in length.  Opened message, and noted that the header did not mention an attachement, no message was downloading, so immediately hit the "sign out" to stop the download.  (Some advantages to slow connections)  Phoned the "sender" who denied sending the message.  OK, have read that spammers (and virus freaks) often "borrow" legitimate addresses to send out their messages. This way, they don't have their mailboxes clogged with responses and are free to go about their business. Since then, the following have appeared on the inbox:  JRKOVIC        A IE 6.0 patch       Jul  11     127K
wdhartranft1   Cellspacing          Jul  6      126K schnappsy1     please try again     Jul  3      127K
Telephone calls to two of the above have confirmed that they did NOT send these messages.   So, if anyone can shed any light on this puzzle, let me know.  Also, beware of any messages you may receive in the 125K to 130K catagory.  Has anyone else received these? [Daryl- Yes, I've received them, but the Declude Virus software of my ISP (yourinter.net) scans and quarantines them before they reach my in-box which is protected by Norton.- - -gH]
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From: Bill Hartranft Merhaba - We plan on being to the Hershey reunion, but haven't yet reserved a room.  We're traveling to Rome the following month then to Phoenix in November so...naturally, we're counting dimes. New address: 69 Manor Ave., Oaklyn, NJ 08107, 856 858 6756 Daryl Waite called me yesterday about a msg I sent him in early July....    Must be a scum bag who is virusing us.  The person obviously has carnal knowledge of his mother and great grand mother.  I was off line from late June until the day before yesterday.  Nasty pieces of fecal matter!!!!Be well.......and have some fun... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------From: "Buzz Osswald" buzzman66@hotmail.com> Elder... Tks for the reunion info.  My wife & I are planning to be there, but we'll prob. stay with a buddy of mine in Carlisle.  If you have any sort of  sched. of events for Fri., Sat., & Sun. Pls e-mail me.  I was with John Owen at Sinop.  He was my "Yeni" in ops. Best regards and tks. in advance for sending me further info. Buzz ( Ozzie ) Osswald
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From: Larry Camp, SP5, 05H, Det 27, JA67-NO67 & Det 4-4, NO67-JL68, (Diane), Coldwater, MI., campdc@cbpu.com (Diane was in Turkey) We will be attending the ASA TUSLOG Reunion. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: John Kerns, Det 4, JL60-JL61, (Sherry), 105 Hillside Dr., West, Oelwein, IA 50662, 319-283-2117, skerns@trxinc.com   Elder:  I was stationed at Det 4 July 60-July 61. I would appreciate info about reunion. Do you have anyone attending from Sinop that was stationed there at that time? I would be interested in attending if there would be anyone I was stationed with. Best regards Thank you for quick response. I got your address from the ASA website.There was a listing of pending reunions. in 1999 my wife and I attended a reunion at Bad Aibling. Approx 30 attended with spouses.It was a great time. I have had contact with Bill Simons.In your e-mail you mentioned Larry Heese of Cedar Rapids,Iowa.That is only about  a hour away. Vance Brehm and Jack Barberi we at Sinop ,same time as I was there.I am quite sure they were from Carlisle,Pa.Have you ever had any contact ? I would be interested in your newsletter. Please excuse my ignorance,but wasn"t familiar with Det 4-4. Best regards, John Kerns
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From: Vic Pryor I'm going to have to pass again this time - should be in France for the month of Sept. - Keep the cards and letters coming, its great to hear from the others that experienced the 'good' times. Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Stanley T. Winarski", SP5-1LT, Spook, Det 27, 62-65, (Carol), Hampton, VA.,   winarski@cox.net Sorry we will not be able to attend.
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From: "Tom Finley3rd", 1LT, Det 4, 72-73, (Mary), Ballwin, MO., tfranklinfinley3rd@worldnet.att.net Thanks for the update on the Hershey reunion. Sounds like it will be much fun, but unfortunately I will not be able to attend this year. Best wishes for a successful meeting.
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From: Gene Cram About to leave for GA-NC-TN-VA for couple of weeks.  Will fwd dools soon as I get back  regards --gene ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Joe Elsberry, SP5, 058/059, Det 27, 63-64, Columbus, MS., GPE42@aol.com Good morning Elder, Darby and I are relaxing on St. Pete Beach so I will not be able to send you 
"the list" until next week when we return to Columbus. We have a wedding conflict with the reunion so we will not be able to attend. The sun and sand is calling and maybe a cold beer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Gary J. Anderson Will not be attending the reunion this year. The events that screwed up last's years reunion have totally bummed me out. I figure if I don't go....insures the U.S. will be safe. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Kelly Jelacic Chuck, Harlow Lawson, my uncle, unfortunately will not be able to the reunion but appreciates all of the information that you have sent to him and would appreciate your continued correspondences in the future.Thanks, Kelly Jelacic  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
  From: Ray Melchiorre, SP5, Medic, Det 27, 63-65, Houston, TX., RaymondJoe@aol.com                        Subject: ABC TV PROGRAMMING
Jim Neugent is a coach in Childress, Texas.  Jim writes:  My name is Jim Neugent.  I wrote to ABC (on-line) concerning a program called "The Practice."  In last nights episode, one of the lawyer's mother's decided she is gay and wanted her son to go to court and help her get a marriage license so she could marry her 'partner.' I sent the following letter to  ABC yesterday and really did not expect a reply, but I did get one.  My original message was: ABC is obsessed (or should I say abscessed) with the subject of homosexuality. I will no longer watch any of your attempts to convince the world that homosexuality is OK.  THE PRACTICE can be a fairly good show, but last night's program was so typical of your agenda.  You picked the dufus' of the office to be the one who was against the idea of his mother being gay and made him look like a whiner because he had convictions.  This type of mentality calls people like me a "gay basher."  Read the first chapter of Romans (that's in the Bible) and see what the apostle Paul had to say about it.... He, God and Jesus were all 'gay bashers'.  What if she'd fallen in love with her cocker spaniel?  Is that an alternative lifestyle? (By the way, the Bible speaks against that, too.) --Jim Neugent.  Here is ABC's reply from the ABC on-line webmaster:
How about getting your nose out of the Bible (which is ONLY a book of stories compiled by MANY different writers hundreds of years ago) and read the declaration of independence (what our nation is built on) where it says "All Men are Created equal" --and try treating them that way for a change! Or better yet, try thinking for yourself and stop using an archaic book of stories as your lame crutch for your existence. You are in minority in this country and your boycott will not affect us or our freedom of statement. Letter Jim Neugent's second response to ABC: Thanks for your reply. >From your harsh reply,evidently I hit a nerve. I will share it with all with whom I come in contact. Hopefully, the Arkansas Democrat Newspaper will include it in one of their columns and I  will  be praying for you  Jim Neugent  I wonder if the person from ABC considered how many people would  read  this e-mail!  This is one we should definitely pass on.
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From: Bill Schulz, SP5, S-2, Spook, Det 27, JL63-DE64, (Maureen), Leesburg, FL., schulznotee@yahoo.com                By: American Airlines Pilot - Captain John Maniscalco
       "You worry me. I wish you didn't. I wish when I walked down the streets of this country that I love, that your color and culture still blended with the beautiful human landscape we enjoy in this country. But you don't blend in anymore. I notice you, and it worries me. I notice you because I can't help it anymore. People from your homelands, professing to be Muslims, have been attacking and killing my fellow citizens and our friends for more than 20 years now. I don't fully understand their grievances and hate but I know that nothing can justify the inhumanity of their attacks.
       On September 11, nineteen ARAB-MUSLIMS hijacked four jetliners in my country. They cut the throats of women in front of children and brutally stabbed to death others. They took control of those planes and crashed them into buildings killing thousands of proud fathers, loving sons, wise grandparents, elegant daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless public servants, and children's mothers. So I notice you now. I don't want to be worried. I don't want to be consumed by the same rage and hate and prejudice that has destroyed the soul of these terrorists. But I need your help. As a rational American, trying to protect my country and family in an irrational and unsafe world, I must know how to tell the difference between you, and the Arab / Muslim terrorist. How do I differentiate between the true Arab-Muslim-Americans and the Arab-Muslims in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter those very same good neighbors and children? The events of September 11th changed the answer. It is not my responsibility to determine which of you embraces our great country, with ALL of it's religions, with ALL of it's different citizens, with all of it's faults. It is time for every Arab-Muslim in this country to determine it for me.
       I want to know, I demand to know, and I have a right to know whether or not you love America. Do you pledge allegiance to it's flag? Do you proudly display it in front of your house, or on your car? Do you pray in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation, that He will protect and prosper it? Or do you pray that Allah with destroy it in one of your "Jihads"? Are you thankful for the freedom that only this nation affords? A freedom that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots who gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to preserve this freedom by paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love America? If this is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about it. Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding the media at this time with hard facts on your faith, and what hard actions you are taking as a community and as a religion to protect the United States of America.
       Please, no more benign overtures of regret for the death of the innocent because I worry about who you regard as innocent. And no more benign overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks because I worry about what is unprovoked to you. I am not interested in any more sympathy, I am only interested in action. What will you do for America -- our great country -- at this time of crisis, at this time of war? I want to see Arab-Muslims waving the AMERICAN flag in the streets. I want to hear you chanting "Allah Bless America." I want to see young Arab-Muslim men enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment of money, time, and emotion to the victims of this butchering and to this nation as a whole.
       The FBI has a list of over 400 people they want to talk to regarding the WTC attack. Many of these people live and socialize in Muslim communities. You know them. You know where they are. Hand them over to us, now! But I have seen little even approaching this sort of action. Instead I have seen an already closed and secretive community close even tighter. You have disappeared from the streets. You have posted armed security guards at your facilities. You have threatened lawsuits. You have screamed for protection from reprisals. The very few Arab-Muslim representatives that HAVE appeared in the media were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with making sure that the United States prove who was responsible before taking action. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims from violence directed towards them in the United States and abroad than they did with supporting our country and denouncing "leaders" like Khadafi, Hussein, and Farrakhan.  If the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance and peace and love for all people, then I want chapter and verse from the Koran and statements from popular Muslim leaders to back it up.
       What good is it if the teachings in the Koran are good and pure and true when your "leaders" are teaching fanatical interpretations, terrorism, and intolerance. It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if large numbers of the world's Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere to a degenerative form of the religion. A form that has been demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose structure is built upon a foundation of violence, death, and suicide. A form whose members are recruited from the prisons around the world. A form whose members defended Johnny Cochran and O. J. Simpson after the latter butchered his wife and murdered an innocent friend. A form whose members (some as young as five years old) are seen day after day, week in and week out, year after year, marching in the streets around the world, burning effigies of our presidents, burning the American flag, shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms against the great United States of America. A form whose rules are so twisted, that their traveling members refuse to show their faces at airport security checkpoints, in the name of Islam.
       Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because our women proudly show their faces in public rather than cover up like a shameful whore? Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because we drink wine with dinner, or celebrate Christmas? Do you and you fellow Muslims hate us because we have befriended Israel, the ONLY civilized nation in the entire middle-east? And if you and your fellow Muslims hate us, then why in the world are you even here? Are you here to take our money? Are you here to undermine our peace and stability? Are you here to destroy us? If so, I want you to leave. I want you to go back to your desert sandpit where women are treated like rats and dogs. I want you to take your religion, your friends, and your family back to your Islamic extremists, and STAY THERE! We will NEVER give in to your influence, your retarded mentality, your twisted, violent, intolerant religion. We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or any others for that matter, to take away that which is so precious to us: Our rights under the greatest constitution in the world.
       I want to know where every Arab-Muslim in this country stands and I think it is my right and the right of every true citizen of this country to demand it. A right paid for by the blood of thousands of my brothers and sisters who died protecting the very constitution that is protecting you and your family. I am pleading with you to let me know. I want you here as my brother, my neighbor, my friend, as a fellow American. But there can be no gray areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance and it is up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand.
       Until then. You worry me." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Schafer ,SP5, 98C, Det 27, MY65-SE66, (Margaret Mary),Tinley Park, IL., jschafer@core.com Subject: Investment Advice = Some sensible investment advice: If you had bought $1000.00 worth of Nortel stock one year ago, it  would now be worth $49.00. With Enron, you would have $16.50 of the original $1,000.00. With Worldcom, you would have less than $5.00 left. If you had bought $1,000.00 worth of Budweiser (the beer, not the stock) one year ago, drank all the beer, then turned in the cans for  the 10 cent deposit, you would have $214.00. Based on the above, my current investment advice is to drink heavily and recycle.