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Subject: DAYS OF OUR LIVES #68
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 19:31:59 -0500

MAIL-call - PRESERVING FORGOTTEN MEMORIES

This message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the info it contains. Thank you. Elder RC Green - - -gH

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Subject: Bugs, courtesy of DUMBO, Bill Binney, SP5, 98C, Det 27,JA66-21JN67

Hey Green Hornet! How's it going?

Not much going on here in Severn, Maryland. So how are you in Indiana, Pennsylvania?

Actually, I don't have any TURKEY NEWS and HAVEN'T finished my BIO for the DAYS OF OUT LIVES Memory Book

I just thought I would BUG you for a minute.

After all, isn't that what friends are for?!

Thanks for being a friend!
Now go BUG the rest of OUR ASA TUSLOG friends with your DAYS OF OUR LIVES NEWSLETTER!

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MAIL-call - PRESERVING FORGOTTEN MEMORIES

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PUZZLE OVER THIS BEFORE PROCEEDING

Fm: Ted Piecko /ym/Compose?To=tpko@msn.com

What's a Military Family Worth? by Rush Limbaugh, www.RushLimbaugh.com <http://www.RushLimbaugh.com>
"I think the vast differences in compensation between the victims of the September 11th casualty, and those who die serving the country in uniform, are profound.

No one is really talking about it either because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11th.

Well, I just can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country.

If you lost a family member in the September 11th attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.

If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable. Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the
surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.

Keep in mind that some of the people that are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough.

We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11th families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as
well. You see where this is going, don't you?

Folks, this is part and parcel of over fifty years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad."

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TAPS

BABCOCK, Paul R., O1-O2, AGC, Special Services Officer, Det 27, 64-65

DOB: 26 May 1944, DOD: 15 June 1999 at Freedom, Carroll County, NH. SSN: 031-32-4971 issued MA. Jim Crane was the Best Man at his wedding to Janet. Jim reports that Janet has since re-married.

DEWEY, Arlin R., E3-E5, 058, Det 27, 61-62

DOB: 24 October 1940, DOD: 12 October 1991Mason City, IA. Arlin's name was given to me by Larry J. Heese. No other information is available at this time.

WHITING, LaVerne N., Rank Unknown, Spook, Det 27, 60-JA63, DOB: 23 December 1922 DOD: 9 July 1999. Stan Winarski arrived in Turkey in September 1962 as Whiting's replacement. Vern had been running the Site 23 office for over two years on his own. Staff supervision was under the S-2, Maj Joe Lindgren. Vern and Winarski had almost four months overlap during which he tried to pass on to Winarski his 20 years wealth of experience generously laced with war stories and tales of successes and failures in his years of working investigations. He had monitored most of the Cox and Brezidine cases before Winarski's arrival. The USAF had investigative jurisdiction in Turkey and us Army guys were usually squeezed out of any case that might make the news back home. A good bit of Whiting's work was trying to catch ASA'ers in black-marketing before the USAF and Turks got wind of them. (Vern retired a few years after returning to the States and worked for years with the Bureau of Indian Affairs. His wife and family still reside in California. Vern proudly informed Stan Winarski that he had earned more in retired pay than active duty pay.)

WHITLOCK, Harold S., Maj-LtCol, Comptroller, Det 27, 64-65. DOB: 10 October 1922 DOD: 27 July 1999 at Sheffield, Colbert County, AL. SSN: 423-14-8292 issued Alabama

WOOD, Jon, Det 27 Col Winarski: Jon Wood was the Det 27 photographer. He assisted in several of our investigations - and produced several security posters featuring Ruth Melchiorre. One of Jon's most gruesome tasks was to process photographs taken of an autopsy of a child who died from a "fall" off a balcony in Ankara. Evidence suggested prior child abuse and the father was eventually tried and convicted. Jon left the Army to pursue a career as a photographer. He was swept off the rocks at Great Falls on the Potomac before learning that he had been accepted by one of the major news magazines as a staff photographer. Jon had taken lots of photos at Site 23 but I don't know what became of them. Jon Wood had several shots of perhaps the funniest incident I recall - the day the toads invaded Manzarali Station. Tumpane had scooped dirt from the dried bed of Lake Golbashi to fill some low spots between the commissary and the HQ. After some heavy spring rains, toads that had buried themselves in the lake bed as it dried up and had gone into a dormant state suddenly awoke and came out.Literally 10's of thousands covered the road and walks.

E-MAIL CHANGES

From: Ed & Lois Cima </ym/Compose?To=Lgc17762@aol.com>Lgc17762@aol.com </ym/Compose?To=Lgc17762@aol.com. Sorry>. Sorry.... Did'nt realized that you didn't have our new address. Its the same as before except a 2 after 1776. Lois had to make the change as we switched carriers. Hope you are all OK. Let me know if anything has changed radically lately otherwise I'll assume all is well.Take care.Ed Cima

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SICK CALL

I've been informed by my Philly friend Bill Hartranft that Phil Kelly is still in recovery from his prostrate surgery over 3 months ago. The Dr wants him to wait another month to see if the scar tissue is healing properly. Phil is still working most of the time. If it isn't one thing, its another, last week-end he had an intestinal infection which was very painful and now has mostly run it's course. So there you have it. He is doing OK but not great. He informs that he is alive and his wife (Donnie) reminds him periodically not to get too down about the other stuff. After I typed this I called Phil and here's his email reply: From: Philip W Kelly </ym/Compose?To=res037jb@gte.net>

Elder, Thanks for the call tonite. My interests in many things have flagged a bit as the realities of life hit me squarely early this year. I want to be energetic and the same old guy but I'm slowed a bit by all this and I don't know when it gets better. I'm getting mail regularly from Bill Hartranft and Jim Harber.

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From: Philip W Kelly </ym/Compose?To=res037jb@gte.net>

To: innfo@stayholiday.com </ym/Compose?To=innfo@stayholiday.com>

Cc: Elder RC Green </ym/Compose?To=ercgreen@yourinter.net>

Subject:Det 27 and 4-4 reunion, 13-15 Sept 2002

Attn: Donna or Alison at the Hershey Holiday Inn,

I will be attending the TUSLOG Det 27 and 4-4 Reunion and request that a NON-smoking room (King or Double) be reserved for me for (13-14) Sept 2002 @ $79 per day, per contract agreement between Elder RC Green and Donna Centofanti and Alison English. Please call me at (760) 939-4018 between 7 a.m. and 4 p.m. Pacific time for my credit card info. Please advise of any other requirements.
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WHERE IS DICK FRANK

Michael Comroe, SP4, 059, Det 27, 61-62, (Jane), Audubon, PA., mfcomroe@onix.com </ym/Compose?To=mfcomroe@onix.com>

WOULD like our help help in locating a Richard C Frank, RA19611861. Dick was a career EM who was from Oregon State and later from Texas. Last known duty station was
Ft Meade Md. (Puzzle Palace). He was a comm ctr NCO who served with me in Turkey in 61-63. Heard a rumor that he received a commission and put some time in Central America. I would love to find him for our Sept Reunion. Thanks

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Newly found VET's

COCKRELL, Frank W., E5-E6, Det 66, 64-67, (Anne), PO Box 13, Cheaspeake Dr., Edgewater, MD 21037, 410-956-5837, no e-mail. Frank is 65 and retired as a E7 in June 1975. They lived in the Star apartments in Ankara during their Tour of Duty with STRATCOM at the relay station. He says that the ASA was a bunch of spies. He has been to the Penn National Race Track and thoroughly enjoyed every time he was there. He plans on attending the reunion and might brings his two brats with him.

DANKO, Daniel P., (Dan), E3-E5, 059, Det 27, @62, (Jean), W184S8990 Racine Ave., Muskego, WI 53150, 262-679-2371, dandydanko@aol.com </ym/Compose?To=dandydanko@aol.com> Called Jean on the 29th. Dan works during the week in

Illinois.

FISH, Donald, 059, Det 27, 61-62, (Billie), PO Box 61, Sarepta, LA 71071, 318-994-3161

FUNKHOUSER, Richard L., (Dick), E6, 98C, Det 4, 64-65, (Catherine), PO Box 33, Broadway, VA 22815, 540-896-2584, no e-mail. Dick is 67 and is an old friend of ours and the Crams where Dick worked for us on the RMP/R entities. From: Gene Cram </ym/Compose?To=Superchief3@msn.com>

Subj: MY LETTER TO FUNKIE

BELOW IS THE LETTER I SENT TO FUNKHOUSER WITHIN MINUTES OF RECEIVING YOUR E-MAIL. SURE HOPE HE GETS TO HERSHEY--I'D LIKE TO SEE THE OLD RASCAL AGAIN.

HEY FUNKIE:

I JUST GOT YOUR ADDRESS FROM ERC GREEN THIS MORNING. YOU JUST HAVE TO GET TO HERSHEY FOR THE REUNION. ELDER SAID YOU WERE STILL WORKING, BUT REMEMBERING THE WAYS YOU USED TO CON US INTO THREE DAY PASSES AND SUCH, SURELY YOU CAN GET THAT WEEKEND OFF. YOU CAN’T BELIEVE JUST HOW MUCH PLEASURE I GOT OVER HEARING ABOUT YOU AND IT’S ONLY A COUPLE HOURS UP I-81 TO HERSHEY FROM BROADWAY. WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING SINCE THE ARMY DAYS? I’LL GIVE YOU A SHORT RUNDOWN ON PHYLLIS AND MYSELF — WE RETIRED IN OCT. 1969, WENT TO MIAMI TO OUR HOUSE WE’D BOUGHT WHEN STATIONED AT HOMESTEADDURING THE CUBAN CRISIS. WENT TO WORK AT THE SCHOOL BOARD TILL 1973. REMEMBER MSG BOB LANE FROM BAD AIBLING? HE WAS ALSO LIVING IN HOMESTEAD AND BETWEEN US WE DECIDED TO GET OUT OF MIAMI, WENT LOOKING AND BOUGHT THE LEASE ON A SERVICE STATION/TRUCK STOP 0N 1-81 AT GRAHAMS FORGE, VA, ABOUT 60 MILES SOUTH OF ROANOKE. DID PRETTY WELL UNTIL BOB GOT SICK AND COULDN’T WORK ANY MORE. IT WAS A 24 HOUR OPERATION AND I HUNG ON FOR ABOUT A YEAR WORKING TOO MUCH. THEN THE FAMILY DOC TOLD ME TO QUIT OR HAVE A HEART ATTACK. SOLD OUT, WENT TO RADFORD UNIVERSITY,GOT A TEACHING DEGREE, TAUGHT 17 YEARS, RETIRED, AND HERE I AM, WITH THE SAME PRETTY LITTLE WIFE, A DOG AND AN RV. LOVE RETIRED LIFE. WATCH BASEBALL ON TV, FOOL AROUND WITH A COMPUTER A LOT AND BOWL THREE TIMES A WEEK. LIVING IN FLORIDA DOSEN’T GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE SNOW SHOVEL, BUT I FOUND I COULD LIVE WITHOUT IT. HEY, WE REALLY DO HAVE TO SEE EACH OTHER. BRING CATHY AND COME TO HERSHEY!!! Best regards: Gene and Phyllis Cram

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HAAGENSON, Ben, E2-E5, 286, Det 27, 63-65 (26m26d), (Charlie-div), PO Box 77, Highwood, MT 59450, 406-733-2544, no e-mail. Ben is 60 and is a retired (25 years) Highway Trooper with the Montana State Police. He was discharged at Det 27 and toured Europe for a year. Ben remembers the 3 legged sheep that was on post. Anyone else remember it?

HEESE, Larry J., E3-E5, 058, Det 27, 60-JL62, (Jean), 7906 Wieneke Cir., Cedar Rapids, IA 52404, 319-396-4226. larry_heese@quakeroats.com </ym/Compose?To=larry_heese@quakeroats.com>. . Bob Murphy informed me where to find Heese. I originally had the name as HESSE and in my attempt to track a Larry Hesse stumbled across a very unusual phone call that I will relate at the reunion. To remember his last name, think of CHEESE, then drop the C. Larry is 61 and will be celebrating his 38th Wedding Anniversary on 9 May. Larry plans to retire in 2003 with over 35 years with the Quaker Oats Corp as an Engineer there. Over the years Larry has maintained a contact with 27'er Bob Murphy, et al that I neglected to scribble onto my note pad; however, Larry promised to send me a short BIO which will include the time that he spent in JAIL in Ankara and the details surrounding that event. Should be very interesting in his own words.

LADY, Ken, E3-E5, 058, Det 27, 61-62, (Donna), 1160 Berkeley St., Santa Monica, CA 90403, 310-828-3139, amongotherthings@adelphia.net </ym/Compose?To=amongotherthings@adelphia.net>. Mary Norman, wife of Roy, sent me the names and addresses of Ken Lady and Bob Murphy with the caveat to check with them before adding their names.

Ken Lady is 60 and is retired LT with 30 years on the job with the Los Angeles Police Department.

Nowadays he and Donna operate a Travel Agency from their residence. Ken informs that he, Roy Norman and Bob Murphy have kept in touch since their Tour of Duty as ditty-boppers at Manzarali.

LETT, Larry L., E3-E5, 05H, Det 27, (Sandy from Wooster, MA), Malta, MT 59538, 406-654-1560, 3els@ttc-cmc.net </ym/Compose?To=3els@ttc-cmc.net>

LUND, Ben, 2LT-1LT, TK#3Watch Officer, Det 27, 62-63, (Marilyn), 1907 Grass Lake Rd., Ft. Benton, MT 59442, 406-378-2110.

MELCHIORRE, Raymond J., E4-E5, Medic, Det 27, 63-65, (Ruth-divorced, 2/W-Elizabeth), Houston, TX 281-375-8891, raymondjoe@aol.com </ym/Compose?To=raymondjoe@aol.com>. I found Ray through his son Mike. Ray was discharged from the Army in 1965 after he departed Manzarali. Ray went to a Presbyterian College in

McKensie, TN and upon graduation joined the Pittsburgh Condors in 1970 for 2 years as the trainer and then spent 6 years as the trainer for the Buffalo Braves (now the LA Clippers), then 9 years with the Boston Celtics and then 9 years with the Houston Rockets, all as the head trainer for those teams. He

enjoyed his Tour of Duty at Manzarali. He remembers John Lampe who played with the Philadelphia Textile Basketball team before becoming an 05H and a star Basketball player at Manzarali.

From: RaymondJoe@aol.com </ym/Compose?To=RaymondJoe@aol.com> Elder, It must have been a senior moment..We couldn't think of Chuck Daly.....I did not receive the roster or the news letters...Maybe you could try again Please.... Have a good week. Ray [[I re-sent them- - -gH]]
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MELCHIORRE, Ruth, ex-wife of Raymond. 31 Sawmill Rd., Lebanon, NJ 08833, 908-832-9074. I talked to her son, Michael (281-497-6547) on 5 May 2002. Mike was born at the USAF Hosp in Ankara in 1964

MEZO, Darrell Wayne, E5, 058, Det 27, MR60-JN62, (Marlene-div; Terry), 6 Southbrook Dr., Mt. Vernon, IL 62864, 618-246-0142, mezo@midwest.net </ym/Compose?To=mezo@midwest.net>

MURPHY, Bob, E3-E5, 058, Det 27, 61-62, (Peg), 7623 Turnbrook Dr., Glen Burnie, MD 21061, 410-255-0320, murphy@annap.infi.net </ym/Compose?To=murphy@annap.infi.net>

OWEN, John, E3-E5, 993, Det 4, JL64-JA66, 19m, (Janette), 6057 N.E. 130th Ave., Elkhart, IA 50073, 515-367-3412, jwowen@dwx.com </ym/Compose?To=jwowen@dwx.com>

Subject: Tuslog reunion

Worked in the Artic Tower in a special operations unit. Arrived from Ft Campbell Ky as a PFC and left for separation as a SP/5. At present I'm planning on attending the upcomming reunion in September. Will try to contact several others if I can find them.

REAVIS, Bill, E5, 059/K, Det 27, 61-63, (Carol), 10995 Gillette St., Overland Park, KS 66210, 913-345-9643, wnr@sound.net </ym/Compose?To=wnr@sound.net>

ROOKS, Dixie, daughter (Brat) of Charles T. Shatzer, 27 County Rd., Cullman, AL 35057, dlbrooks@mindspring.com </ym/Compose?To=dlbrooks@mindspring.com> I don't have cable or DSL capability---Please send the 2002 Memory Book to me when you get it completed. [Dixie sent me her Dad's BIO which follows] SHATZER, Charles T., E7, Gym, Det 27, AP62-JL64, (Dot), 2903 Aein Rd., Orlando, FL 32817,

407-277-2934, no e-mail, but can be reached through his daughter Dixie at dlrooks@mindspring.com </ym/Compose?To=dlrooks@mindspring.com>

Here is the Bio from my Dad, Charles T. Shatzer

Retired in 1968 as an E7 with over 20 years. As an opener, I think you are doing a good job, and I enjoy reading all that individuals encountered in their Tour of Duty at Site 23 and the other sites. I arrived at Det 27 in April 1962. I had the same feeling as many others did when making the trip from the airport to Det 27 (far out in the Boonies). A CWO Putterbaugh met me at the airport. He was the Special Services officer. The first thing he told me was that I was to take the post volleyball team to Crete to play in the Mediterranean Volleyball Tournament. Two weeks later I was on the way to Crete through Adana and Athens by hitchhiking on whatever plane we could get. It was 17 days later before we got back to Det 27. So that was my start at Site 23. I remember the COX case by being woke early on Sunday morning by the MP's to go look for the two men. We never had to go as they were found before we got going. My family came over in July 1962 and we roughed it out in Ankara (can't remember where in Ankara but it wasn't on the hill) for a couple of months until the post housing was completed in December 1962. One of our neighbors in Ankara was a American family---civilians living in Ankara---the father had a contract to work on the plumbing for the gov't for the new family quarters being built there on Site 23. So when we moved on post , they moved back to Penn. I wonder if anyone remembers a Turk named MOOSE. His Turkish name sounded like MOOSE so that's what he was called. He was in charge of all the Turkish workers on site and helped alot of the GI's and their families with Turkish matters.. There was a Doctor in the dispensary that worked with alot of the athletes. He lifted weights out of Detroit, MI ---anyone remember his name? He helped me alot in our athletic programs. Some of the great athletes that served during my time were Nelson, a runner, and Silverman in Tennis, badminton and etc----a very versatile man . Bob Hicks and Roy MacMurry worked with me and later I talked to both of them. Hicks in Georgia and Roy here in Orlando, Florida. Hicks worked in the gym and MacMurry at the bowling alley. I worked at a couple Archery shops from 1969 to 1979. Went to work in 1980 at Randall. Made Knives and retired in 1999. Looking forward to Memory book and Master Roster - Dixie Rooks,

SOBAY, Atakan, (Tulin), 4323 Duesenberg Ct., Pearland, TX 77584, 281-485-2310, atakan@att.net </ym/Compose?To=atakan@att.net>. Atakan is a native Turk who worked as a interpreter/translater for JUTTMAG and TUSLOG in Ankara with Dave Kern. They've been friends ever since.

TENNEY, Gil, CPT, CO, Co A, Det 27, 66-67, (Brooke), 181 Spurwink Rd., Scarborough, ME 04074, 207-767-2859, bgtenney@maine.rr.com </ym/Compose?To=bgtenney@maine.rr.com>

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ATTACHMENTS - check em out

1. The Jorgysairlines one is none other than the ex-05H from Duluth, MN., namely Gary Jorgensen. The photo was taken in Alaska while on one of his many hunts there. The inside of

the crashed airplane is really Jorgies tree stand, Gary and his wife were among the first to make reservations for the 13-15 September reunion at Hershey, PA.

2. The two attachment was sent to me by Dixie Rooks, the daughter of SFC Chas Shatzer whose BIO you just read. Thanks Dixie.

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From: Stanley T. Winarski </ym/Compose?To=winarski@cox.net>, E5-O2, Spook, Det 27, JL62-JA65, (Carol), Antietam Ct., Hampton, VA 23660, 757-850-4413, winarski@aol.com </ym/Compose?To=winarski@aol.com> (Retired Colonel)

Stan included a photo attachment of his whole clan minus his oldest grandson, Isaac, who was in USMC Boot Camp at the time- - - but its resolution is too big (369 KB) to attach to this newsletter. I've already inserted it into the 2002 Days of our Lives Memory Book. It sure is a fine portrait- - -gH

THE LIFE AND TIMES OF STAN WINARSKI
Carol and I and our two daughters, Bonnie and Barbie, arrived in Turkey in September 1962 from Jonesboro, Arkansas, where I had manned a one-man field office. LaVerne N. Whiting, whom I was replacing, welcomed us with open arms. He had been running the Site 23 office for over two years on his own. Staff supervision was under the S-2, MAJ. Joseph B. Lindgren, who had been a NYC policeman before entering the ASA. Both figured that beggars couldn¹t be choosers and agreed that this young Sergeant E-5 with all of three years Stateside experience in the business was marginally better than nothing. Vern and I had almost four months overlap during which he tried to pass on to me his 20 years wealth of experience generously laced with war stories and tales of successes and failures in his years of working investigations. He had monitored most of the Cox and Brezidine cases before my arrival. The USAF had investigative jurisdiction in Turkey and us Army guys were usually squeezed out of any case that might make the news back home. A good bit of our work was trying to catch Army guys in black-marketing before the USAF and Turks got wind of them. (Vern retired a few years after returning to the States and worked for years with the Bureau of Indian Affairs. His wife and family still reside in California. Vern died in 1999 but not until he proudly informed to me that he had earned more in retired pay than active duty pay.) In addition to Site 23 , we had responsibility for Det 4 at Sinop and made several trips there.

Stan's promotion to Second Louie on the Black Sea

On the 6th of January in a nasty winter storm we were rowed out from Sinop harbor and struggled up the rope ladder onto the Turkish Black Sea steamer for passage to Istanbul enroute back to Ankara. The next morning, mid journey, after a very unpleasant night at sea tossed about by waves and the "lateral"snow blowing out of Russia, Vern Whiting, in his skivvies, climbed out of the top bunk, shook me awake, saluted me, made me pay him a dollar, then threw my bedclothes on the upper bunk and he rolled back into bed in the lower bunk. Thus I was commissioned a brand new 2d Lt. When we arrived back to Site 23 Maj Lyle J. Garitty Jr., the Adjutant, directed me to join the Officers Club and my (very shallow) cover status was changed from GS-8 to GS-11. This was a "direct" commission, no ROTC, no OCS, no officers' basic course. The closest thing to formal training I had for my new responsibilities as an officer was when I attended NCO academy at the 25th Division in Hawaii during my previous enlistment as an artilleryman. Fortunately, for me (and sorely testing the metal of Phil Clarke, Ed Register and Bill Schulz who joined the office as our responsibilities expanded) I had a few years to grow into this commissioned officer business and had a few good NCO¹s along the way to guide me. Ed Register was the "old" soldier but new to intelligence work. Schulz was our physical and electronic security expert. Clarke was our administrator and I leaned on him quite a bit. As I recall he was a pretty big guy and of the three complained the least about my leaning. Much of our work was physical and document security, black-marketeers, and AR 635-89 cases (forerunner of Clinton's, Don't ask, Don't tell policy). As I recall, Ed in particular had a really hard time with the concept that a guy would prefer another guy rather than a pretty woman. He and I would occasionally assume the role of Salt and Pepper in our interviews. I think I always got stuck being Pepper.

THE MP AT DET 4 WHO WAS AN ARSONIST

That was the technique we used to win a confession from the MP that set several fires at Det 4. Seems the kid had become a hero even earning another stripe at his last duty station for discovered a "real" fire (we'll never know how "real" it was) and, being bored with the duty at Det 4, decided to liven things up a bit and see if he could win another promotion. He failed the OSI polygraph exam but they had not been able to garner any evidence to charge him. Talat Talat was our HQ building janitor. He lived in Cerkezhuyuk, the village just beyond our antenna field. Carol and I became close friends with him and his wife. Our two blue-eyed ruddy cheeked daughters were very popular in the village. The old men would pour tea into their saucers and blow across it to cool it for them and the girls loved it. Both girls are healthy and well to this day, in spite of, or perhaps because of, their exposure to all manner of things in the village.

STRANGE SCHOOL KID BEHAVIOR

One year the village school children visited our post school and never having been exposed to western toilets left muddy footprints all over the seats. I can only imagine what was going on in their minds.

CAMEL CARAVANS ALERTS/WARNINGS

Talat tried to give me advance warnings when caravans passed through the area. They invariably stripped grounding wires from the antennas and they and the wires were long gone by daylight. A few times we were were able to get the Turkish guards to send
patrols out to discourage the interruption to operations. LTC Dennis Barton, CO at Det 27, was forever throwing us into criminal investigations. He didn¹t like the way OSI handled our Army guys - their only objective seemed to be to get the evidence and turn the case over to the Turks. The first few times he ordered me into a criminal case I attempted to inform him that we were CIC (Counterintelligence Corps) not CID (Criminal Investigations Division) agents. His response was, "You are investigators, aren¹t you? So, investigate!!" It only took being told twice for me to get the message. Our area of responsibility eventually expanded to include sites in Pakistan and Iran. Jon Wood was the post photographer. He assisted in several of our investigations - and produced several security posters featuring Ruth Melchiorre. One of Jon's most gruesome tasks was to process photographs taken of an autopsy of a child who died from a "fall" off a balcony in Ankara. Evidence suggested prior child abuse and the father was eventually tried and convicted. Jon left the Army to pursue a career as a photographer. He was swept off the rocks at Great Falls on the Potomac before learning that he had been accepted by one of the major news magazines as a staff photographer. Jon had taken lots of photos at Site 23 but I don't know what became of them.

THE TOAD INVASION AT MANZARALI

Jon Wood had several shots of perhaps the funniest incident I recall - the day the toads invaded. Tumpane had scooped dirt from the dried bed of Lake Golbashi to fill some low spots between the commissary and the HQ. After some heavy spring rains, toads that had buried themselves in the lake bed as it dried up and had gone into a dormant state suddenly awoke and came out. Literally 10's of thousands covered the road and walks. Driving was extremely dangerous and walking was impossible for days. Jon shot rolls of film of the event catching toads in the most hilarious locations and poses.

After Site 23 we moved on to Fort Ritchie, MD where I ran a CIC Field Office (Ft. Ritchie also hosted a WAC Co and we handled several AR 635-89 cases of the fairer sex. Where was Ed Register when I needed him?) Back to Turkey for an unaccompanied tour as S-2, Sinop.

THE TURKS ON 'STRIKE' AT SINOP
A few years later, enroute to Sinop to be the S-2, I stopped by Cerkezhuyuk during Ramadan and shared a Ramadan meal with all the village men. The Turkish employees at Sinop were on strike (again) and things were getting ugly (again). When I arrived at Cherkezjuyuk, in uniform this time, they were convinced the US had mobilized because of the strike and that I had been called up. They were only slightly correct - I had volunteered for Vietnam and was a week away from reporting to Oakland for ship-ment when DA diverted me to Sinop with a stopover at USASAREUR for detailed 'discussions' with COL. 'Hatchet' Hackworth. There were more than Turkish employee problems at Sinop and USASAEUR wanted someone who knew the area to ferret out the root of the problems, came across my name on orders and had me diverted. Both the command issues and the strike were nasty business the first several months of my tour. LTC Fred W. Brooks moved up from Deputy to Commander and things improved. LTC Howard G. Comfort followed Brooks.

THE MIDNIGHT EXPRESS AT SINOP

It was while in Sinop that I became friends with the warden of the Turkish prison in town. If you¹ve seen Midnight Express, you¹ve seen the inside of the prison and the film did not exaggerate conditions. When one of the company commanders or Opns Officer felt that one of our soldiers was heading down the 'slippery path', he'd be assigned temporary duty as my "driver" during a liaison visit with the warden. While the warden and I chatted, a Turk guard would take my "driver" for a tour of the prison. By time we both got back to the vehicle, the soldier had no doubts about what his life would be like if he ended up in there and every one of them made it to their ETS without further incident.

THE HOAX SOVIET INVASION CREATED BY AN MP AT SINOP
It was a cold and snowy night when a Det 4 MP reported seeing two men running from the rear of the Operations building and scaling the back fence. They didn't stop when he directed them to so he emptied his 45 in their general direction. The Commander ordered all hands out and organized a sweep of the fields between the Ops Bldg and the sea using every vehicle we could muster from the motor pool to light the scene, looking for evidence that the Soviets had launched a team against us ("from a sub submerged off the coast") and had been chased off by the alert MP. There were no tracks in the snow and no sign of anyone having scrambled over the barbed wire fence, but sweep we did. Of course we found nothing but snow and ice and cold winds. I was finally allowed to spend some time alone with our new hero and was able to persuade him to admit the hoax. The commander was more angry with me for bursting the bubble than he was at the MP for the stupid trick. We also had a problem with major items of equipment disappearing from post - things like engines and generators and radiators and 8 truck tires at a time. After receiving a tip from a Turk in Sinop, we had the MP's block the gate rather than swinging it open as our post fire truck responded to a call for assistance from the Sinop Fire Department. Under the hoses we uncovered the latest "shipment" heading down the hill.

Then to Fort Holibird, MD for the Advanced Course followed by a Tour of Duty as Special Security Officer for the Foreign Science and Technology Center in the old Navy Munitions Building next to the reflecting pool in DC. Following that I finally got to go to Vietnam, for real this time. Served with MACSOG for a year based in Saigon at MACV-4 compound while Carol and the girls remained in Alexandria, VA. Then into DIA at Arlington Hall Station and later into the Pentagon where, by the press of necessity (when there was no one else available to be sacrificed), I was rapidly trained and thrust before Congress and the National Estimates Board as the "DIA expert on the Sino-Soviet border". Good duty and a great job.Bootstrapped for 9 months to finish a BA degree then on to the Command and General Staff Course at Ft. Leavenworth and Carol completed a Masters in Education. Then, apparently because the MI Branch Chief had been so impressed that I had survived a full tour at DIA, I was rewarded with a plum assignment to Fort Huachuca, AZ with duty as the first US exchange officer at the British School of Service Intelligence in Ash ford, England. I managed to maneuver that two year hardship assignment into three. But that is grist for a
separate book. Returned to the US to Fort Hood,Texas as a staff officer in the Corps G-2 operations section - then was selected for command of the reconstituted 303d MI Battalion at West Fort Hood in the 504th MI Group. Carol finally got to use her training and taught emotionally disturbed children for three years. A few years later I turned over command and we moved to Fort Leavenworth to teach at the Command and General Staff College. There BG Butch Saint picked me up to be one of his Air Land Battle instructional team - one of my missions was to explain what was then the revolutionary new Army war fighting doctrine to the Air Force (and to a lot of skeptical Army organizations too). I almost didn¹t survive that Tour of Duty. The Air Force was very sure they wouldn't need any help from the Army to win the next war. I frequently felt I returned home on my shield. Gen. Saint just slapped me on the back and threw me into another arena. From Leavenworth we went to Japan where I was the G2, US Army Japan and IX Corps for 11 delightful months before being selected to attend the US Navy War College in Newport, RI. The War College was fantastic - and I was able to do additional course work resulting in an MA from the War College and an MS from a local college. We then moved to Fort Monroe, VA where I headed the Intelligence and Electronic Warfare Directorate in Combat Developments for TRADOC. Those were exciting times bringing Joint STARS, unmanned aerial vehicles, and (almost)
ASAS into being. Retired [as a Full Bird] on the last day of June 1989 after more than 31 years. Upon retiring I opened my own consulting business working out of my home helping several companies bring new technology into the marketplace. It is true that one must spend 60% of one's time developing the next customer. I didn't and after 8 years the business dried up so I not too reluctantly closed shop. Coincidence led me to take a job as the administrator of a large Episcopal church/school in Virginia Beach. The commute finally got to me and I fully retiring a year ago this past November. Both our daughters married while we were stationed in Texas and Barb, our youngest, came home with two children and a dog while we were in Fort Monroe. That led me to decline an attaché job (Turkey, of course) and opt for retirement instead. Barb and the girls lived with us about five years before the right guy came along. They now live about two blocks away. Over the years our two daughters blessed us with 9 grandchildren - perhaps the girls contracted increased fertility at Cerkezhuyuk?
Since fully retiring I¹ve been working as a volunteer at the Mariners' Museum and with the Food Bank of the Peninsula - both neat organizations - see: http://www.charityadvantage.com/foodbank/Home.asp and: <http://www.mariner.org/> and Carol has been volunteering for the Red Cross for years and recently underwent training and is now working as a volunteer in the area hospice program.
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DITS and DAHS From: Roger Glubka </ym/Compose?To=glubkar@kornet.net>, 72B, Det 27, FE64-JL65 (CW3 Michelle), PSC 303, BX 25 APO AP 96204-0025 (Korea), glubkar@kornet.net </ym/Compose?To=glubkar@kornet.net>

Those patches were 80,000 won which translates to $61.50, the won rate is around 1300 to the dollar, varies day to day. The problem with the Hodgi patches is the shape of the patch (not be round or square), also the number of colors. What cost is the program to have the master made because they have the machine with all the automatic needles. They just put into a computer and the machine does the rest. It's pretty cool. We're looking at $150.00 dollars for 100 of either one. What's bad is that they don't need the money now with the World Cup 2002, they open the games here and play the championship in Japan,(soccer) coming here this month, so they have work up the ass doing team logos, clubs, supporters, staff, security and anybody else who wears a uniform/patch for such a big event. I'll keep you posted. We might get a better price in June. Later! Roger

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From: John J. Nodorek Jr., E3-E4, 76P/76T/95B, Det 27, AP67-NO67 & Det 4-3, NO67-NO68, PO Box 50125, Albany, GA 31703, johnjnodorek@isoa.net </ym/Compose?To=johnjnodorek@isoa.net>

Dear Mr. Green. - A short moment of your time. Awhile back I listed my information about serving in Turkey on your web site. I either failed to copy or have lost the web site address. Would you be so kind as to sent it to me. Thank You, [I don't have a website! I have enough trouble trying to publish a weekly newsy missive. Mark Hamilton had a excellent MANZARALI website, but it is no longer available on the web (or at least I can't find it) at <http://www.images-by-MarkHamilton.com/ManzaraliVets>

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From: Joe Peisinger </ym/Compose?To=popjoe10@satx.rr.com>

Subject: Re: The Risse's

Gretchen immediately recognized the Risse name, she even volunteered it was "Toni", before I mentioned it! I don't know how she does it. I am lousy on names. She said she thought Toni worked at the Merhaba Palas when we arrived in Turkey and that they lived about 8 blocks away from us and had a couple of children younger than ours. We both drew a blank on Jim Hunt and neither of us remember the Lt who had an Eurasian wife.
We won't be planning on the reunion, we will be recovering (physically and financially) from a 14 day River Cruise from Amsterdam to Vienna, plus 3 day extensions on either end. (We had pre-paid our entire trip on 9 Sep 01). Please give our best regards to all who attend! Hope you have a great turnout and that many will come. - Gretchen & Joe Peisinger

ercgreen wrote: Merhaba Joe and Gretchen, This evening I had a half hour chat with Bill and Toni Risse.They do not have internet service. Jim Hunt is a neighbor of theirs.He also does not have a computer. Bill Risse is 75 and Jim Hunt is81. Bill has some memory loss, but was able to laugh and remembersome of the names from their Tour of Duty at Manzarali. Toni askedthe Peisinger's, she remembered the name Gretchen. They oftenreminince about Turkey with Jim Hunt. Both retired as LTC's. Toni wantsto get to the reunion, God willing. She asked about a young LT who hada pretty Euroasian wife at Det 27. I cudn't help with an ID. Do either of Uremember? Is it possible that y'all might be able to make it to Hershey inSept? Best regards, - - -gH

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From: Mary Norman, wife of Roy Norman, SP5, 058, Det 27, 61-62, Caldwell, TX., mlnorman@prodigy.net </ym/Compose?To=mlnorman@prodigy.net>

Please feel free to send updates to Roy at this e-mail address too. When I gave you his work e-mail address I thought it would get Roy to read his e-mails better there, because it's hard to get him still enough at home to read e-mails. Please keep me inform, because I do read them and pass the information on to Roy. We are going to try to make the reunion. Sincerely, Mary L Norman [Mary included the names and addresses for the Murphy's and Lady's in this e-mail. Thanks Mary I appreciate your help for without it LADY would still be LEIDY in my files as that's how someone remembered the spelling- - -gH]

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From: Tom McWade, SP5, 05H, Det 27, MR61-DE62, Ponte Vedra Beach, FL Tpdjmcw@cs.com </ym/Compose?To=Tpdjmcw@cs.com>

Subject: Where are they now

E. Green, Our conversation was very informative a few weeks ago and since you listed me in the register, I have heard from some old timers I served with in Turkey. Sorry I won't be able to attend the reunion in Sept. 2002. Could you check your records to see if you have a J. J. McDonald that served in Turkey in 61/61. If you have any info, I would appreciate his address, ph # and/or e-mail. Thanks again for the memories [Is one of the J's short for Joe? Haven't found a J.J. or Joe McDonald yet. Can anyone help us?- - -gH]

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Did U know that,

1. My purpose is to elucidate many TURKEY experiences, tales, issues and events of our Tour of Duty

within Turkey.

2. Some old stories might be exposed and resurfaced in my forum

3. I want everyone's mind to be challenged as it has never been challenged before regarding your Tour of Duty in TURKEY.

4. The days of intercepting Morse Code might be long gone!

4. In time - you might come to the inevitable conclusion that I am NOT right, have not been right, and will likely continue to be NOT right in the future

5. We ex-ASA'ers fought many a Cold War battles secretly in Turkey. Our achievements were unknown and still ignored or totally forgotten and need to be written about. e.g., the U-2 incident - codename was GREEN HORNET and that Manzarali and Sinop tracked the Soviet Units that tracked the U-2; the Pueblo incident; the Six Day War in June 1967; the Bay of Pigs; the Berlin Wall; the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the day to day continuity of what the THEN MIGHTY Soviet forces were doing, especially the 104th Guards Airborne Division in the Transcaucasus Military District. Isn't it mind boggling that now we, the US Army, has advisors in that area HELPING them get organized into a fighting force, etc...........

6. God, grant me the senility to forget the people I have never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.
7. Now that I am "older" (but refuse to grow up) here's what I've discovered

1) I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it.
2) My wild oats have turned into prunes and All Bran.
3) I finally got my head together, now my body is falling apart.
4) Funny, I don't remember being absent minded.
5) It's easier to get older than it is to get wiser.
6) I wish the buck stopped here; I sure could use a few.
7) It's hard to make a comeback when you haven't been anywhere.
.8) If God wanted me to touch my toes, He would have put them on my knees.
9) It's not hard to meet expenses...they're EVERYWHERE!
10) The only difference between a rut and a grave is in the depth.
11) If all is not lost, THEN WHERE IS IT?
12) Did I send this to you already?
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From: Russ Heinen, 1LT, Det 27, SE63-JN65, (Diane), Vienna, VA SCHNAPPSY1@aol.com </ym/Compose?To=SCHNAPPSY1@aol.com>

Subj: Roster Changes

Elder - Please excuse the delay in replying with any info to all of your hard work, but my wife's (Diane) medical condition has turned me into a mess the last four or five months. She had a bad M.S. attack and now is totally bed bound, almost totally blind and can not do any daily activity of living. Have a nursing aid employed so that I can still work at INSCOM, but will have to stop working by year end as the cash drain is too great. So much for that. My data: 01-02, Sep63-Jun65. All the other info is a go.
Other changes: Spoke to Mrs. Mary Ann Whitlock, wife of LtCol Harold S. Whitlock, tonight and she was really surprised to hear from somebody she knew in Turkey. She said her husband passed away in 1999. She does not have a computer. Her address is 106 Burton Hills Drive, Sheffield, AL 35660. Tel 256-381-3708.
Crane, James: 3252 Citation Ave. NW, Kennesaw, GA 30144-7307, tel 770-529-6231, good address as I got an Xmas ltr from him in Dec.
Bates, Herbert: (SP5 Det 4, 74-75, (Joyce), 4301 Mobil Ct., Fairfax, VA 22030, tel 703-591-8632. Herb works at HQ, INSCOM about 50' from me and 10' from Jack Wilson. (CW2, Det 27, OC65-AP68, (Chris), Amissville, VA). Herb said he would send you updated data, but I thought I would let you know the current roster address is erroneous.
Thanks for all your great work. I'm sure a lot of old friendships have been renewed and a lot of happy moments have occurred soley because of your efforts. Russ Heinen

[[Thanks, but it's VET's like U that keep me busy seeking others who served with the ASA in Turkey and to get them to relate their memories to me for inclusion in the DAYS OF OUR LIVES and into the 2002 Memory Book. Being a caretaker for a loved one has to be one of the hardest jobs on this earth as the feeling of hopelessness never goes away. GOD BLESS U Russ and keep the faith- - -gH]]

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From: Ron White, SP4-SSG, 98CRU, Det 27, SE65-NO67, (Linda), 1200 W Riverside Ave., Wichita, KS 67203, 316-263-6890, r.whitehouse@att.net </ym/Compose?To=r.whitehouse@att.net>

Subject: Contact from Det 27

Elder, If you haven't talked with Karen Baker (formerly Karen Childs-Rocky Child's ex-wife) you may find that she has kept in contact or at least has current addresses for some of the people who were assigned to Det 27. She and Dave Skinner's wife, Carol, came over in the winter of 1965 and would have been there for about two years. Preston & Karen Baker, 3634 Graham-Paige, Cottage Grove, Wisc 53527, Ptandkj@aol.com </ym/Compose?To=Ptandkj@aol.com>

I stopped and visited Tom Hall in Everton, Missouri (north of Springfield) several years ago. He was working for Gates Rubber Company in Springfield at the time. His class left DLIWCB about 6-8 months before our class, so he probably left Det 27 in the winter of 1966 or spring 1967.

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From: Michael Comroe </ym/Compose?To=mfcomroe@onix.com>, SP4, 059, Det 27, 61-62, (Jane), Audubon, PA. mfcomroe@onix.com </ym/Compose?To=mfcomroe@onix.com> Subj: Re: The 1962 Football Photo

gH: they say that the road to HELL is paved with good intentions! After saying that I will dig in my memories box and find the picures. Will copy and forward next week or I will turn in my Kari-hani pass. [[LOOKS like you're going to have to send me the KARI-HANI pass too!- - -gH]]

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From: Mike Findley, SP4, 05H, Det 4-4, OC68-OC70, Rhinelander, WI jmfindley@mail.g2a.net </ym/Compose?To=jmfindley@mail.g2a.net>Gentlemen; - The Stan Owen that Norm Frickey told us about was gracious enough to contact me. He is not our man. He did mention, though, that he has been contacted before about being our Stan Owen and figures that he must be a well liked & much respected man. I assured him that he was. I have had no response, yet, from Mr. Disney. God Bless [[Its OWENS, not OWEN- - -gH]]
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