Subject : DAYS OF OUR LIVES #45
Date : Thu, 24 Jan 2002 01:42:35 -0600
mail-CALL - PRESERVING FORGOTTEN MEMORIES
TAPS
THUNERT, John A., SFC, Det 27, 66-68, born: 5 January 1938 died: April 1981 per Maj Garland Gibbs, our newest recruit. John Thunert and I were on the Manzarali Maulers 1966 All-Star Fastball Softball Team. He was a catcher who used a huge fielder's glove to catch Glen Reed and I played 3B.
We'd sent an invitation to John for the 2001 reunion at Devens. Now we know
why he didn't answer. RIP ole buddy- - -gH
KOSLOW, Robert W., MAJ or LTC, Deputy Cdr, Det 27, 61-62, born: 17 Nov 1930 died 25 June 1993 at Spring Hill, FL per Maj (Ret) Robt and Jean Broehm
who live in Appleton, WI. More on Maj Broehm later.
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From: genehamrick@webwizzards.com
Subj: Samuel W. Puterbaugh
I knew Sam Puterbaugh well, He was a master of BS and was the personnel officer when I was at Det 27. He was there during the Gay scandal when one of his men let the boys in Europe know what a sweet place Det 27 was. I forget how many were cashiered, but several. Anyway he told a good story and that site needed a few good stories. Nathan Gene Hamrick, Maj USA SigC ret., Deltona, FL - [Sam Puterbaugh was about 51 when he was at Manzarali and died in 1993 at Buena Vista, VA. Thanks for adding something new that happened at Det 27. This is the first time that anyone mentioned GAYS at Det 27. Back then, GAYS, more or less, kept themselves in a closet for the lack of a better way to describe it. I can honestly say that I never identified a GAY during my 20 year ASA career, but that's not to say that I didn't suspect several, but had no proof, as most of you have also. Nowadays things are different in the military. Is there anyone out there who can add to what Major Hamrick mentioned above? If so, tell us what U know- - -gH]
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From: Garland Gibbs, ggibbs@shentel.net
Re: Master Roster Det 27, 4-4, 17, 53 & 66 as of 22 Jan 2002
Hi, Thank you, I can give you a few names now,more later. Major Paul Sanders QMC,66-68, CW3 Rowe Propst (LOG) 66-68; Maj. Mary(?) Kaytyla (Nurse) 66-68; Cpt ? White (Nurse), 66-68; PFC Edward Gallant 67-68; PFC David Althouse 67-68 The John Thunert you have listed is deceased. He was my NCOIC died in 81. His grandson lives in his home and has the same name. All above a TUSLOG DET 27. Great work. [[I contacted Garland Gibbs on 22 Jan 2002 and sent him only the roster, and lookee here, he's given me six new names and the TAPS info for John Thunert. Garland Gibbs was an EM for six years and was a 05D (DF) SSG E-6 when he went to OCS. Det 27 was his first duty station as a 2LT where he worked as a Watch Officer for one of the Tricks. His wife Cheryl was with him in TURKEY. After Manzarali he joined the elite ASA Special Forces troops and retired as a Major in 1980. I'm sure that he will provide us with new info - WELCOME ABOARD our TUSLOG group. I will make arrangement for the CD-R Memory Book to be mailed to U ASAP- - -gH]]
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From: Larry Camp campdc@cbpu.com
Subject: Morse Message
Good morning, Elder.
Jim Harber's morse message reads as follows:
VVV VVV CQ CQ DE MADDOG QSA? QSV K
The message was sent around 15 wpm and it appears that Maddog stuttered on the question mark and didn't send it properly.
I still use CW on the ham bands several times a week. Larry Camp WB8R, 05H, Det 27 (Jan-Nov 67), Det 4-4 (Nov 67- Jul 68)
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From: Chuck Bergmann cbergmann@insp-eng.com
Subject: Hoe Hey, Pat Campbell and Dan Schoppe
Yes I remember Joe Hey. We had a great time there and he also followed me or maybe it was I followed him to Viet Nam. We were room-mates in Viet Nam and had one hell of a great time. Yes I remember the pranks we pulled on Pat Campbell and I still tell the story to friends of mine and I still laugh about it when I think back on it. I think Pat wet his pants on that one. As a matter of fact if I remember Dan Schoppe helped with the hook up of the equipment or he had something to do with it. I would like to call Joe on the phone so if you have a phone number let me know what it is so I can call him. If there was a prank that could be played on someone Joe and I did it.
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From: robert nearpass
Mike Andronaco earlier wrote: "Anyone remember the MP with last name of CISCO who was practicing a quick draw at the PMO or guard shack and shot the place up. Other MP's that Mike remembers was SIMMERO, MAX MORRISON, Tony MOULTON and RUBIN. Oh, yes Bob Cisco quick drawing at the Main Gate and forget he put the clip back in his .45 and as I recall he paid for the round, 17 cents or something close to that, I last saw him in Viet Nam he was with an aviation company. As I recall Bob Cisco was from Toms River New Jersey and he longed to be a draftsman upon his discharge from the service
Simmaro is John Zimmaro, a great guy who was booted from ASA also saw him in Viet Nam, he was with 3 squadron, L troop 11th cav. Max Morrison remember him but have never seen him after I left Turkey.
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From: genehamrick@webwizzards.com
Subject: Triple G Gibbs
There was a Major Gibbs who was S-1 and Special services officer and an excellent officer. I would like to find his where about now. Gene Hamrick, Supply Officer 62-63. Maj Gibbs and I ofter wondered what we had done to receive this assignment. [[Gerald G. Gibbs and his wife Della live at 160 Pinewood Rd, Virginia Beach, VA 23451, 757-491-1360.
Gene - When U make contact, please send me some info on them! Thanks- - -gH]]
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From: Philip W. Kelly <res037jb@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Manzarali Flag Football **THE FOCK Rock, etc
Greenie, Here is my reply to your wav. file. I don't know code, since I was a typist in
the ASA in the S2 office. I asked my brother, Frank, since he is a HAM radio operator WB6CWN and here is his reply: Phil
In plain international Morse code it says:
VVV VVV CQ CQ DE MADDOG QSA IMI QSV K
It's formatted like a ham message, but I don't know what some of the latter characters mean.
Groups of V's are just attention getters/place holders. Code operators send them at the beginning of messages to get attention. They carry no meaning.
CQ is recognized worldwide as the ham's non-emergency "calling anyone who wants to talk" signal.
DE means "this is", so DE MADDOG means this is Maddog
Hams sometimes use "Q signals", and QSV means "shall I keep sending the letter V?", however QSA is not a Q signal and IMI means nothing that I know of. This is the part I can't explain and is probably the key.
K means "the end", or "over"
Does this help?
Frank [[Phil - Please inform your brother that he was exactly right- - -gH]]
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From: grichard2@juno.com
Subject: Re: Manzarali Flag Football **THE FOCK Rock, etc
Elder....I was an 05H once too. However, it was about 40 years ago..Guess it's like learning to ride a bike...V's CQ DE MABBOD QSA ? QSV K. As you can see, I didn't have to copy much...I had guys to do it for me.... Gary Richard
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gH, Thought you might find the attached softball scores of some interest; from the Front Page of the Mauler 08/65. Drew Robinson, Det 27 Medic 64-65
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From: Douglas R. Potts escapen@eudoramail.com
Subject: Re: Manzarali Flag Football
(edited)-Elder,
I did not play on the post football team, only the post softball team. I did play on Trick #3's team. I believe that both Jay Hunter and Lanny Couvillon played on the post team. Check with Lanny to verify that. Jay also played on the post softball team with me and you know about the King and His Court stuff. Let me know if you have any questions.Doug Potts
[[I sent Doug a rather lengthy email with several questions that included his stint with the King and his Court- - -gH]]
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From: Lanny Couvillon
Subject: Re: DAYS OF OUR LIVES #42
Can you forward another Bio form to me---I seem to have lost it in cyberspace--
Thanks - LC [[Lanny, - A BIO FORM SHEET WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE SURVEY
REPORT THAT WILL BROADCAST TMR. I appreciate your concern and look forward
to reading it- - -gH]]
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From: Charles Mcclevish <cmcclev@earthlink.net
Hey - Everybody!! Grab a cheap seat while they last and enjoy McClevishs'
excellent stories as usual- - -gH
PHIL: Hope your operation went well and that you are recovering fine. Sorry to hear about it. My next door neighbor had a similar operation and in about two months he was back to riding his Harley.
By the way, I've remembered something. Remember the "NEWKS" briefings? What I remember is that you normally gave the security briefings to the newly assigned personnel and that I backed you up when you were not available. My details are a little sketchy, but I remember one item we used to tell them, which has to do with taxi's. We would tell them that if you were a passenger and the driver had an accident, throw the fare on the seat and run like hell. This was the appropriate action because if there were any injuries, the Turkish authorities would make you support that person and the persons family with an estimated income that person would have been after the accident, and perhaps for the rest of his life. The taxi driver was not at fault, because if you would not have hired him, he would not have been there at that time.
That reminds me of the some of the taxi trips. If you were on the outskirts of Ankara and you wanted to go downtown, perhaps to the AFEX, and it was all downhill, the driver would not even start his car. He would coast all the way and charge you as if he did use gasoline downhill and the return trip to his original spot without you. The rationale was that he would have to drive back to the same spot, uphill, because you hired him to go down the hill. If he picked up a fare to go up the hill, it was his good fortune.
A couple more stories. It's very sketchy, but I remember attending someone's going away party, maybe even mine, but a couple of the guys were diving into the Service Club fountain in the middle of the club. I think it was only about 2 feet deep and about 8x8. It had a spout in the middle of it, which was a thin copper pipe. We/they? were diving from the roof of
the building. I can't believe someone wasn't impaled on it. But I guess that is what happens when a person has a little too much to drink. Perhaps that's when it was decided the post needed a swimming pool. I never got to see the pool. I guess it was built after I left in May 64. For entertainment, all we had was the Movie, the Service Club and the NCO club. I loved the nickel slot machines. You could play all night with one roll of nickels. Some-times we would play Hearts in the Hqs barracks day room upstairs, all night.
I remember one time, Kindig and some other guy started to fight during a pool game in the Service Club. They fought for a while until they couldn't raise their arms anymore.
The night of the attempted coup in '63, I was coming back to post from Ankara, when we were detained by Turkish askara's. They entered the bus and the driver told them that we were American soldats. They immediately turned and left the bus. I think we were issued M14/16's the next day, which was the only time I ever held a rifle in Turkey, except for the boar hunt up north.
Anyway, enough for now. Hope you are better. Please let me know.Charles McClevish, Pfc, HQS/S2, MOS711, Det 27,'63-64. [[Thanks again for a very interesting remembrance of your days in Turkey. It is memories like this that help to promote and revive everyone's interest and my aim is to keep alive the TUSLOG memories- - -gH]]
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From: cellis728@juno.com
Thanks for the "ride" into the past [in a 57 Chevy].
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From: Joe Schafer
Re: Memory Book routing instructions
gH, Just to let you know, I have not as of this date, received the Memory Book CD.Please advise
Joe Schafer, Tinley Park, IL, SP5, 98C, Det 27, MY65-SE66
[[Sorry about the routing mess-ups. I've tried my damnest to get the Memory Book to everyone. I placed a CD-R in todays mail for U. When U get it, either download or print the 85 pages. When done, please send me a notice and I will send U a name and address where to send it next. Again I
regret what happened as a few simply did not follow my routing instructions. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I wish others wud do the same- - -gH
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From: Bill Hartranft WDHartranft1@home.com
Subj: The Morse Code message
So weird...........I copied: vvv vvv cq cq de maddog Qsa IMI QSV k
At least that's what I think I heard. I'm slow on the typing now.....had to
do it twice. Don't remember what QSV means but believe I remember qsa imi
is asking how the sender is being received. I think.
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From: michael gabriel mrgabe@hotmail.com
Do you have Jimmy Bryson's email address that you can send to me? Thanks. {{No, not yet}}
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From: Gene Cram
Subject: FAMILY TREE (This one's been around for before)
Who is JACK SCHITT ?
The lineage is finally revealed. Many people are at a loss for a response when some one says "You don't know Jack Schitt !" Read on and you'll be able to handle the situation intelligently .
Jack is the only son of Awe Schitt and O. Schitt. Awe Schitt, the fertilizer magnate, married Noe Schitt, and the deeply religious couple begat 6 children : Holie Schitt , Fulla Schitt , Giva Schitt , Bull Schitt, and the twins , Deep Schitt , and Dip Schitt.
Against her parents' wishes , Deep Schitt married Dumb Schitt a high school drop out . After fifteen years of marraige , Jack and Noe Schitt divorced. Noe Schitt later married a Mr Sherlock, and out of her devotion to her children, decided to hyphenate her last name , and became Mrs Noe Schitt-Sherlock. Dip Schitt married a woman named Loda Dung, who became Loda Schitt .
The couple produced a nervous son , Chicken Schitt . Fulla Schitt and Giva Schitt, inseparable throughout childhood subsequently married the Happens Brothers. The local newspaper announced the Schitt-Happens wedding, which was quite an event. The Schitt-Happens children were Dawg , Byrd , and Hoarse. Bull Schitt, the prodigal son , left home to tour the world . He returned home from his travels with his Italian Bride Pizza Schitt.
(We should note here , also, a little known Revolutionary War hero, Old Doane (canon cocker) Geeva Schitt .) So , NOW if someone says "You don't know Jack Schitt" , you can beg to differ.
You not only know JACK SCHITT, but the entire SCHITT LIST !
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FM: Bill Binney
According to a news report, a certain private school in Victoria recently was faced with a unique problem. A number of girls were beginning to use lipstick and would put it on in the bathroom. That was fine, but after they
put on their lipstick they would press their lips to the mirror leaving dozens of little lip prints. Every night, the maintenance man would remove them and the next day, the girls would put them back.
Finally the principal decided that something had to be done. She called all the girls to the bathroom and met them there with the maintenance man. She explained that all these lip prints were causing a major problem for the custodian who had to clean the mirrors every night. To demonstrate how difficult it was to clean the mirrors, she asked the maintenance man to clean the mirrors. He took out a long-handled squeegee, dipped it in the toilet, and cleaned the mirror with it.
Since then, there have been no lip prints on the mirror.
There are Teachers, and then there are Educators.
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