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Subject: DAYS OF OUR LIVES #26
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 17:58:23 -0600

Fm: dtarr@njea.org
Sent: Thurs, OlNOOl 8:27 AM
Subj: RE: DAYS OF OUR LIVES #25 & the 2002 Reunion at Hershey, PA
Just thought I'd pass along a few thoughts. I travel thru Hershey frequently to meet my son & daughter in law on their trips back to her folks. (They live near Pgh - her folks in Carlisle, 25 mins. fm Hershey) Regarding the reunion....Pgh airport is approx 20-25 min outside Pgh, which wud place it abt 4 to 4 1/2 hrs fm Hershey. Be appraised that there are closer airports. Harrisburg has an airport that handles major jets & it's less than an hour fm Hershey. Also, ABE Airport (Allentown, Bethlehem Easton) is also closer than Pgh. It's about 2 hrs from Hershey. I live about 2 1/2 hrs fm Hershey in Edison, NJ., so have not flown into the Harrisburg area, but both are good airports & connecting reservations into either shud not be a problem. Just thought this info might help some who are not familiar with the area.....IIDon Tarr, Det 66, 6647-- -I was going to mention this, but I thought that those who have not been to Pittsburgh wud like to see the view as they exit the Fort PITT tunnel and gaze upon downtown Pgh as they cross the bridge that passes over the THREE RIVERS that Pgh is famous for, except for the STEELERS, PIRATES & PENGUINS. It's quite a view as those who watched the Pittsburgh Steelers trounce the Nashville (Oops Tennessee Titans & ex-Houston Oilers) NFL team observed this past Monday nite. --- I live 45 min fm downtown Pgh & also thought that some of our old friends wud like to stop by Indiana, PA for a visit before traveling the 4 hours to Hershey via 422 and 22 to Hershey--- Tks agn --- gH]]
Fm: rocky.hagan@honeywell.com
Sent: Wed, 310C01
Hi Elder!
Well I have been reading about everyone getting their shirts and hats and every day when I get home I look for that package that contains my goodies and nothing. So I read some more and watch. I was about ready to send an e-mail an say hope you haven't forgotten me. When I had a surprise this morning. My neighbor who is 87 comes out said "I have a box for you. Every morning I have been watching to stop you before you go to work and by the time I can get out of the chair and to the door you are gone (not sure what happened in the evening) so today I have been standing at the door for a half hour waiting for you and then proceeds to tell me about all her pains and how hard it has been on her trying to stop me. She handed me the box and it was what I have been looking for. The Shirts look great and so do the hats. I will get a check off to

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I guess the delivery guy gave her the box to give it to me. I think she has had it for two weeks or
better. Anyway thanks and as it stand now I will be at the 2002 reunion. Thanks again and have a great day. God Bless America Rocky Hagan, Dunedin, FL., Det 4- 4, 68-71 1
From: AllanCCCC@aol.com
Sent: Thurs, OlNOOl 9:42 AM
Subj: Re: The 2002 REUNION DATE IS 13-15 Sept at Hershey, PA
I live about 1.5 hours from Hershey and I can give some limited support..let the appropriate people know. Allan J. Bagnall, New Freedom, PA., SP?, 05H, Det 27, MR61-0C62. [[Hey, Bill & Dawn Bender. Call 717-235-2543 if U need any help with the reunion. Have U rx'd the Memory Book CD yet? If so, I'm sure that U will note that there is very little about U & yours therein. U served at Manzarali during the early stage of it becoming a BIGGER site & we'd like to hear your version of the early days there. Tell us all about it so that I can include it in this series and then write a BIO about your TOUR of DUTY in Turkey and thereafter. Thanks-- -gH
Fm: dsalcido2@home.com
Sent: Thurs, OlNOOl 11:04 AM
Subj: 2002 ASA Reunion
We now have the dates, Sept 13-15, 2002 for the next reunion. However, We need to make arrangements for hotel/hotels. It would the majority could stay at the same location. There was mention of a hotel there which would make arrangements to accomidate us. the name of the hotel, and their phone number? I think most people who plan to attend would like this info.
Thanks, Don Salcido [(Chula Vista, CA., 05H SP5, Det 27, 66-67. - Don was on the 1st JET to depart San Diego after 9111. He flew to Pgh, then to Hartford & then rented a car & drove to Devens & enjoyed himself. Don - we're still waiting for that 810 that U promised. Please don't let us wait for a long time!
The fol is my reply to his e-mail:
Don. I agree & Bill and Dawn Bender are working on this as I type this and
as soon as I get the word, it wib out to everyone, along with as many details that I can gather.
Bill Bender is a VP of a large corp near Philly and his 'OFF-DUTY' time is limited and Dawn also works. I suggested to Bill that he select a hotel/motel where all of us can stay & that he arrange for a hospitality room where we all can congregate or just relax with a Lone Star or Iron City while shooting the BULL about old times. Patty and I will detour to Hershey on our way to West Point around the 9th & scout the area for a better understanding of what we can expect to see and do at the SEO2 reunion. Thanks Don & I'm wondering If U might want to volunteer to sponsor the 2003 reunion in San Diego?-- -gH
Fm: Theodore R Willingham Jr tedwİthe-spa.com
Sent: Wed, 310C01 1:23 PM
Subj: HI ! A304 ASA Hi! Elder, I finally got around to trying the diskette Thumbnailshetch.doc but can not get it to load on my system could you please tell me how or what program was used to do it. I am on a old 486 so I may have a problem. Thanks, Ted [[Any of U computer whizes want to tackle Ted's problem?--gH]] PS Really enjoy the reunion -looking for to the next.
Fm: Arthur L. Gilman algilman#mediaone.net
To: mschoppe@onr.com Cc: ercgreenİyourinter.flet Sent: Wed, 310C01 6:46 PM Subj: Memory Book Dan, I appreciate your sending out another disk. I still don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I can't seem to open it at home or work. I took it to another computer at work and there it said that we don't have the application that created the disk.These are all Macs - I don't know if that's the problem. If you have some ideas let me know, but I don't want you to bother sending out another. You've already worked on it enough. Thanks.(Sid)Arthur

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Fm: David Frederick
Sent: Wed, 310C01 6:27 PM
Subj: memory disk
I received the memory disk today and I will forward same. Sorry I couldnt make the reunion but plan to get to Hershey. I was born and raised on a Lancaster county farm and still have brothers and sisters and in laws in the area. Dave
Fm: clay Lifto
Sent: Thurs, OlNOOl 9:00AM Subj: Re: NEED YOUR ADDRESS Elder, My wife was trying to mail you that check for $45 the other day, and didn't have your address off the box the stuff came in. Rather than digging through all the stack of emails (I haven't used the disk you sent yet ... is it on there?), is it possible to just email me your address, so we can get it out to you right away. Appreciate it-Clay Lifto
[[WHAT! U haven't viewed the disk that U got. Is it the floppy or the CD-R? Did U get the CD-R version? My ADR is: 3094 Warren Rd., Indiana, PA 15701
Fm: campdc@cbpu.com
Sent: Thurs, OlNOOl 7:48 AM
Subj: Zip Code Correction
Good morning, Elder. I was cruising through the master roster arid noticed that my zip code is incorrect. Apparently a transposition error somewhere in the process. My correct Zip is 49036. Thanks for correcting it and thanks also for all your efforts to keep this whole thing on track and moving forward. It is amazing how big this has become in a short period of time. Regards,Larry Camp [[Coldwater, Ml., SP5, 05H, Det 27, JA67-JL67 & Det 4-4, JL67-JL68. We did not have any info on Larry Camp when the Memory Book was being prepared & that is the reason his name is not in the Memory Book. Larry's wife (name unk) was also with him in Ankara & Karamursel). Okay, Larry get busy and write up a BIO & I'll include it the replacement pages that I will start issuing in the near future, one at a time, but not until I'm relatively sure that everyone has rx'd the Memory Book CD]]
Fm: wdhartranftl @home.com
Sent: Thurs, OlNOOl 6:18 PM
Subj: Memories from Turkey
Finally got the PC back in operation. Man, I am blown away by the work you did on the Memory book/Reunion... Photos, music I relived those barracks parties again, saw the young faces and saw some of the young faces in the pictures taken at the reunion. Jim, fantastic job Thanks for all your hard work... .thanks to Elder also for keeping the communication channel open.
Bill Hartranft, Philadelphia, PA., 05H SP5, Det 27, 62-64

Fm: Dan Schoppe mschoppe@onr.com
To: Arthur L. Gilman algilman@mediaone.net
Cc: Elder RC Green
Sent: Thurs, OlNOOl 9:53 AM
Subj: Re: Memory Book
That CD will only work on a PC type computer. I do not have any way of creating one for a Mac. At least we know what the problem is. Now we need to see what can be done. I could print

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[[I think if he took the CD to a PC with microsoft word or windows that he cud get it to work]]
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Fm: Arthur L. Gilman
Sent: Wed, 310C01 6:46 PM
Subj: Memory Book Dan, I appreciate your sending out another disk. I still don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I can't seem to open it at home or work. I took it to another computer at work and there it said that we don't have the application that created the disk. These are all Macs -I don't know if that's the problem. If you have some ideas let me know, but I don't want you to bother sending out another. You've already worked on it enough. Thanks. (Sid)Arthur
Fm: Ralph Tilney
To: Ralph (Moto) Tilney
Sent: Thurs, QINOOI 12:20 AM
Subj: The perfect warrior for Afganistan
This from a female Miata friend in Canada...
Take all American women who are within five years of menopause - train us for a few weeks, outfit us with automatic weapons, grenades, gas masks, moisturizer with SPF15, Prozac, hormones, chocolate, and canned tuna -drop us (parachuted, preferably) across the landscape of Afghanistan, and let us do what comes naturally. Think about it. Our anger quotient alone, even when doing standard stuff like grocery shopping and paying bills, Is formidable enough to make even
armed men in turbans tremble. We've had our children, we would gladly suffer or die to protect them and their future. We'd like to get away from our husbands, i if they haven't left already. And for those of us who are single, the prospect of finding a good man with whom to share life is about as likely as being struck by lightning. We have nothing to lose. We've survived the water diet, the protein diet, the carbohydrate diet, and the grapefruit diet in gyms and saunas across America and never lost a pound. We can easily survive months in the hostile terrain of Afghanistan with no food at all! We've spent years tracking down our husbands or lovers in bars, hardware stores, or sporting events...finding bin Laden in some cave will be no problem. Uniting all the warring tribes of Afghanistan in a new government? Oh, please ... we've planned the seating arrangements for in-laws and extended families at Thanksgiving dinners for years ... we understand tribal warfare. Between us, we've divorced enough husbands to know every trick there is for how they hide, launder, or cover up bank accounts and money sources. We know how to find that money and we know how to seize it... with or without the government's help! Let us go and fight. The Taliban hates women. Imagine their terror as we crawl like ants with hot-flashes over their godforsaken terrain. Hmmm. Might work!
Fm: Walters William
Subj: A POW's Tale
Almost makes you wish you were a Marine. To all, This was sent to me by an old buddy, jet driver and POW in Viet Nam, AJ Myers. I thought ya'll would like to hear that many of us feel the same way about protestors and some will continue to stand up against such "things." Pappy A.J. & Ken Another example of what the "cancer of the unearned" does to the taxpayer subsidized University minds & it's professors making thousands a month for a few hours of drivel in front of minds full of mush. The result of this story should happen in every place in America, evil progresses when good men do nothing Thankfully these men stood up to the ignorant & mentally challenged. I arrived in Moscow, Idaho (Home of Idaho University one block from Best Western) and went to dinner at Best Western. About 85-100 people were in the Restaurant. I'm at a table for about 5 minutes when this "Group" comes in (20 people). They have Anti-War Picket Signs with them. It appears that two of ......They all sit at a large round table behind me and begin to talk very loudly about US atrocities in Afghanistan. One of the "Professors" stands up and gives a brief talk about how the "US is famous for atrocities" and Afghanistan will be no different. One of the students asked a question about Viet Nam POW's. The "Professor" makes a comment about how that was only US propaganda about poor treatment of POW's. OK - I'm really mad now and I jump up and go over to their table. (In retrospect - Over the .....

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entrance to the restaurant is a huge American flag. On each table is an American flag and a small hand painted sign , "United We Stand" I excuse myself and I ask the Professor if I can ask him a question. He says yes. I said that he appears to be of age to have served in Viet Nam, and asked him if he had served. His answer was, "NO - I defended this Campus and told the truth to the students. I then asked if he remembered what he was doing on February 16, 1969. When he answered, "Of course not that was too long ago," I responded, "Really, I remember what I was doing. That was the second day of my capture and I had been standing in a bamboo cage for 24 hours with water up to my chest". I then said "Sir, your comments about how POW's in Nam were treated are a lie and I personally say to you, you are a liar, as you never were there. I was a POW and they did not treat our POWs humanely. The only other person I have ever heard make the statements like you have is Jane Fonda. Is she telling the truth and not ?" He stood up and after about 10 seconds said, "Jane is a great patriot and I cannot visualize her lying." With that, I reached over and grabbed the small American Flag and United We Stand sign and said, "I'm taking this back to my table where it can be appreciated". No one said a word to me as I started to walk back. However after a few seconds, people started standing up and applauding all around the restaurant. Two men got up from a table across the room and walked over to me. The first identified himself as former US Marine Lieutenant Flynn and the other man was former Gunnery Sergeant Graboski. In a loud voice after introducing themselves, Lt. Flynn said they were former Marine Guards at a US Embassy. He then said,"We are over at this table to defend the US Flag from all foes, both foreign arid domestic." They then sat down and asked their Waitress to bring their meals over to my table. A few more minutes went by with loud comments from the "Anti-War" table. All of a sudden, "Gunny" Sergeant Graboski stood up and in a loud voice said "All of you heard what the President said the other night. You are either with the United States or you are with the terrorists." He then said "Please stand and join me in God Bless America." As he started singing, people all around the restaurant stood up and joined in. Several of the students at the "Anti-War" table also stood up half way through the song and joined in. Both Professors and the majority of the students remained seated and refused to sing. At the end there was a great ovation. The Manager came up to my table. (He and his staff came out from the kitchen and sang). He thanked me for what I started and then went over to the Anti-War table and asked them to leave "I will pay for what you have had so far but I cannot in good conscience serve you - get out now!! One of the Professors then made a remark "Well, we are not going to pay one dime for how shabbily we have been treated." As they were leaving, one customer stood up and said, "Manager, here is $5 towards their bill, anyone else willing to chip in to get this scum out of here?" All over the restaurant, people stood up reaching for their wallet and saying, "I'll chip in" The Manager, in tears said, "My family is from Poland, I am now a citizen and am so proud of what I see tonight." He started crying and a couple of the waitresses helped him into the kitchen. The two Marines and I were there for about another 20 minutes and finished our meal. The Hostess came up and showed us more than $100 dollars that all the other tables had told their Waitresses to give towards our bill. I thanked her but said I could not take the money. Lt Flynn suggested donating it in the Restaurant's name to the New York Relief Fund, so I guess that's what will happen. I just can't believe how Americans are coming together now. Just thought you would like to hear how the rest of the country is reacting to what happened!!? ==========================================================================
Fm: Ted Midtaune To: ercgreen Sent: Wed, 31OC01 3:48 PM Subj: Re: Jay Hunter [[Hunter was at Det 27 circa 62-63 & later was Catcher for the King & his Court touring fast pitch softball team]] Will do on the Potts' thing. My guess on Jay is that he was only mid-20's in 1963-4. However, the address is so very close that it makes one wonder. I have one more possibility to check out for his wife's name. Will get back to you.

Fm: ercqreen To: Ted Midtaune Sent: Wed, 310C01 1:39 PM Subj: Jay Hunter Ted, Thanks for the info on Potts & Hunter as U remember it. How old wud U guess Jan Hunter was in 1963? If he was 33 in 1963, then I found him on the SSDI index as follows: Jay Wilbur Hunter, b-17JL30 in Kern Co., CA., d-18N097 in Mission Viejo, Orange Co., CA. - mother's maiden name was Colvin. U mentioned that his ADR in '64 was Murietta, CA. The distance between them, as the crow flies, is abt 30 miles. If this is

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Also, I did some switchboard searching for Potts & came up with the following 4 poss Doug Potts in CA:
1). Doug Potts, San Diego, CA 92126, (858)-271-5777
2). Doug Potts, 689 Springer Dr., Redding, CA 96003, (530)-221-7023
3). Douglas A. Potts, 2204 Paseo Del Mar, Palos Verdes Estates, CA 90274 (310)-541-5242
4). Douglas Potts, 9098 Micaela Ct., Sacremento, CA 95829, (916)-688-1802
I'm certain that he is one of the 4, & I'd guess that he is #3. Want to check them out for me?
I sent the following, sort of cryptic email to Susan Hunter yesterday & included U as Cc & haven't rx'd a reply to date & it was delivered to her. I purposedly did not disclose that I knew that Jay Hunter was deceased:
Dear Susan Hunter, I am looking for a Jay Hunter who was in the ASA arid was stationed at a US Army post outside Ankara, Turkey in 1962 & 63. This Jay Hunter
along with a Doug Potts (who was in Turkey at the same time as Jay) played for the King and his Court touring softball team in the mid to late 60's. I received a email from Eddie Feigner informing that Potts had recently made contact with Feigner who is the King in the King and his Court. I am seeking this information as we now have a reunion for this Turkey unit plus a Memory Book that we'd like to add information regarding Doug Potts and Jay Hunter.
A Ted Midtaune from Livermore, CA was friends with Potts and Hunter in Turkey & he too is very interested in making contact with both of them. He informs me that Jay Hunter's address in '64 was Murietta, CA. I respectifully request your help in locating or giving me any information that you might have regarding Jay Hunter and or Doug Potts. If you aren't related to Jay Hunter, then I'd appreciate knowing the other HUNTERS at zip code 92692 are related to Jay and if so I'd be most appreciative to receive that information.
Sincerely, Elder RC Green, 3094 Warren Rd., Indiana, PA 15701, (724)-349-7395, ercgreen@yourinter. net
Fm: Susan Hunter, Giggles702@aol.com
Sent: Thurs, OlNOOI 8:32 AM
Subj: Re: Jay Hunter
Hi Elder,
I am not sure if we are related to Jay Hunter. But, My sister is doing our family tree, and if we are, she is the person who will know. I would be
more than happy to forward this on to her. If I hear anything, I will let you know. Good Luck:) Susan
Fm: Ted Midtaune
Sent: Thurs, QINOOl 10:31 AM
Subj: Re: Jay Hunter
Some little additional info re. Jay Hunter, my wife thinks that his wifes name was Geni. I am only about 80% sure of the spelling, however. Will
be trying the Potts' numbers this weekend
Fm: Ted Midtaune
Sent: Wed, 310C01 12:23 PM
Elder, this came from my nephew (who is only 25, but who was in the navy and overseas), and hit home for me because of my animosity toward Jane Fonda. Hard to believe that she could even be considered for the honor of being one of the "100 Women of The Century"!! Everyone makes mistakes, but that bordered on the traitorous, and I have never heard of an apology or anything to mitigate her behavior.

KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country b! ut specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
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USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Cot's frenzied application of a wooden baton From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was 'missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.

She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Cal. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with ! a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
Fm: Walters William
Subj: Flower show
Two old Vet's were sitting on a park bench outside the local town hall when a flower show was in progress. One leaned over to the other and said, "Cripes! life is boring, we never have any fun these days. For $5.00 I'd take my clothes off and streak through the flower show!" "You're on!" said the other old veteran, holding up five dollars. As fast as he could, the first old man fumbled his way out of his clothes and completely naked, streaked through the front door of the town hall, followed by loud applause. The streaker burst out through the door surrounded by a cheering crowd. "Wow, what happened?" asked his friend. "It was great!" he said, "I won first prize for The Best Dried Arrangement!"
Fm: Paul N. Dion-Deitch paul@tickcentral.com
Sent: Wed, 310C01 5:08 AM
Subj: Karamursel Guest Book Entry
Below is the info submitted on Oct-18-2001 9:25 EST
username: ercgreen@yourinter.net
Visitor Name:: Elder RC Green

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