From: "ercgreen"
Subject: DAYS OF OUR LIVES #124
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:28:21 -0400


This newsletter is intended for the use of ASA TURKEY Veteran's. Comments or submissions to the DAYS OF OUR LIVES are most welcome. I will respond to all e-mails and will assist whenever needed, but reserve the right to edit for content and clarity and welcome any errors that may appear herein.

GREEN, Elder RC (gH), DOB: 1936, RA13513638, E7, 982/98C, Det 27, 1-15MY61, Det 120, MY-JL65, Det 27, JN66-OC67 & Det 4-4, OC67-NO68, (Patty), 3094 Warren Rd., Indiana, PA 15701, 724-349-7395,


The following have made reservations at the 7 Springs resort.

ANDERSON, Jerry, E3-E4, 341.10-Teletype repair, Det 27, JL56-JN58, (Sally), 5209, Lindermann Ave., Racine, WI 53406, 262-634-8509, pd $70.

ANTONELLO, Tony, RA13576417, E6-E7, 059/05K, Det 27, AU65-MR68, Det 4, 69-70, (Val), 12257 Wye Oak Commons Cir., Burke, VA 22015, 703-239-1739, Pd $70.

BALDERSON, Eric L., (Rick), 2LT-1LT, Fin O, Det 27, 62-63, (Ramona), 36 Florie Farm Rd., Mendham, NJ 07945, 973-543-2093,

BERLIN, Franz DOB: 1939 RA17534092 E5 98J Det 4, 4-1 & 4-4, 62, (Peg), 300 Arundel Beach Rd., Saverna Park, MD 21146, 410-544-4833, Pd $40.

CARRICK, Ernie DOB: 1936 RA25358534 E3-E4 Personnel Det 4, NO57-OC58, (Betty), 6111 Fairfield Dr., Huntsville, AL 35811, 256-852- 6180,

CRAM, Gene W2 W2215309 OIC T/A Det 27, 66-67, (Phyllis), 5180 SW Gardenia Ct., Dunnellon, FL 34431, 352-489-9085, pd $70.

CRANE, Jim 01-02 05225154 FC Det 27, 65-66, (Lisa), 1490 Lago Mar Dr., Viera, FL 32940, 321-242-2404,

DeLEO, Steve DOB 1945 RA11423895 E4 982 Det 27, JA64-AU65, (Agnes), 203Cheney Pl., Castle Rock, CO 80104, 303-688-1520, Retired Col, USAR, 32y svc, 7 as EM E-6

ERICKSON, Ron DOB 1940 E4 059 Det 27, MY61-DE62, (Cathy), 17204 E 37th Terrace, Independence, MO 64055, 816-373-3349,

GOODMAN, Jay DOB: 1952 E4 MP Det 4, SE72-SE73, (Kathy), 3468 Izy Hill Ln., Finleyville, PA 15332, 724-348-0358, (Motorhome)

GREEN, Elder RC (aka Al & Green Hornet) E7 Det 27, 1-15MY61, JN66-OC67(Buyuk Elgi & qtrs 225-E, eff 18JA67) & 4-4, OC67-NO68, (qtrs 914-4), (Patty), 3094 Warren Rd., Indiana, PA 15701, 724-349-7395, pd $70.

HUNT, Carlos E DOB 1937 E3-E4 058 Det 4, MR58-MR59, (Frankie), 10215 Hwy 79E, Henderson, TX 75652, 903-889-2391, Pd $70.

JONES, Ed, DOB: 1944, RA18664602, E5, 059, Det 27, OC62-MR65, (Florence), 30 Woodland Hills Dr., Bismarck, IL 61814, 217-759-7773,

KEENAN, Frank E5 058 Det 27 @61 fm NJ per Roy Springmeyer & Art Landskov

KJOLLER, Jon, DOB: 1938, RA15578113, E3, 058, Det 4, JL58-AU59,, (Darlene), 993 Rosemary Dr., New Braunfels, TX 78130, 830-625-1064, (Plans to drive)

LAMBETH, Henry (Hank) DOB: 1940 RA14750951 E4 283.1 Det 4, JN62-63, (Catherine), 1419 Marvin Dr., Vinton, VA 24179, 540-890-4508, (cable) Pd $70.

McCULLOUGH, John T DOB: 1938 RA15560286 E3-E4 058 Det 4, 58, (Sue),1044 E. Smith Rd., Medina OH 44256 330-722-6490, Pd $70.

MURPHY, Bob E3-E5 058 Det 27 and Det 4, AP61-AP62, (Peg), 7623 Turnbrook Dr., Glen Burnie, MD 21061, 410-255-0320, and

NEARPASS, Robt D E3-E5 MP Det 27, DE64-DE66, (Lorraine), 111 Hope Crossing Rd., Belvidere, NJ 07823, 908-638-7625, pd $70.

NEILL, Hank, PVT-2LT, Finance, Det 27, AU62-JA64, (Judy), 7417 Jenna Rd Springfield, VA 22153, 708-569-5163, - Retired Colonel Pd $70.

RODRIGUES, Charlie E4 Supply Det 4, 59-60, (Patricia), 210 Benham Ave., Syracuse, NY 13219, 315-487-1195,

SCHWARTZ, Fred Det 4 58-60, (Rose), 321 Fain St., Morganton, GA 30560, 706-374-4302, or pd $70.

SINOR, Walter E4 F&AO Det 27, 62-63, (Betty), 3049 County Road 239, Valley Head, AL 35989-4721, (256)635-6860, 877-453-5097 (toll free),

STEFFEN, Arnold DOB: 1937 RA16568829 E4 283 Det 4, JL58-JL59, (Janet), 1043 Old Humboldt Rd., Jackson, TN 38305, 731-664-5058, Pd $80.

TAVERNETTI, Dave & Sue, DOB: 1940, 2LT-1LT, Watch Officer TK#4, Det 27, MR62-SE63, 238 Rio Vista Dr., King City, CA 93930, 831-385-4458, pd $70.

VAN BROCKLIN, Jim DOB: 1929 SP3 (E4) US51337026 Det 4, FE56-SE56, (Marcia), 39 Therin Dr., Hamburg, NY 14705, 716-649-9232, Pd $70.

VAN ORDER, Roy DOB: 1936 E4-E5 283 Det 4, 27SE60-MY61, (Toni), 8186 Kneeskern Rd., Bridgeport, NY 13030, 315-633-0418, and Pd $70.

WILLINGHAM, Ted YOB: 1944, RA18737230 E5 33C (Sugar Tree), Det 27, SE66-JN68 (Susan), 3 Chestnut St., Easthampton, MA 01027 413-527-9687 Pd $70.

WYLIE, Jim (Sick Call), DOB: 1941 RA13774855 E3-E5 993 Det 4, 64-65, (Sharon), 322 Crossfire Ln., Ligonier, PA 15658, 724-238-6457, no email. Pd $70.

ZIMMERMAN, John W. (Bear) DOB: 1941 RA13774858 Det 4, 64-65, (Sherry), RD#4 Latrobe, PA 2nd in MSC Hvy Wt class in 1965 per Mauler. Pd $70.



The 7 SPRINGS resort is near Champion, Pennsylvania. The resort is accessible from either the Donegal or Somerset exits of the Pennsylvania Turnpike. The Pittsburgh International Airport is the nearest metropolitan terminal.

What other things should I know?

1. The cost per room is $85.00 + tax for each room.

2. For reservations call 1-800-452-2223 or 1-866-437-1300 and inform the receptionist that you are with the ASA Turkey reunion group

3. Request a room on the 6th floor or above that faces the ski slopes. Each room has a balcony and the view is breathtaking!

4. The crash site of Flight 93 is nearby as is the rescue hole for the 9 trapped miners. Both sites held the nation in suspense. Also nearby is Frank Lloyd Wright's best architecture work "FALLINGWATER" and Fort Ligonier.

5. No Pets permitted.

6. The cost for the Saturday nite banquet, etc is $35. per person payable ASAP to me, Elder RC Green.

7. For additional information, contact Elder RC Green, 3094 Warren Rd., Indiana, PA 15701, 724-349-7395,



ANTONELLO, Louis F., (Tony), YOB: 1937, RA13576417, E6-E7, 059/05K Det 27, JL65-FE68, Det 4, SE69-SE70, (Valerie), 12257 Wye Oak Commons Cir., Burke, VA 22015, 703-239-1739, - Hi Elder & Patty, We have made our REUNION reservations for the nights: 28 - 30 August. We will be driving from VA to Seven Springs on the 28th and expect to arrive at the hotel that afternoon. Looking forward to seeing you and the gang at Seven Springs. Take Care & KTF.

ASHTON, Robert, DOB:1940 RA11349856, SP5, MOS 273, Det 66, JL63-JL64, (Dot), PO Box 5, Milton, VT 05468, 802-893-4194, - [edited]. Bob Ashton checked in to let me know that he still reads and enjoys the DOOL's and wonders WHY so few ex-DET 66 VET's contribute to the DOOL.

BALDERSON, Eric L., (Rick), 2LT-1LT, Fin O, Det 27, 62-63, (Ramona), 36 Florie Farm Rd., Mendham, NJ 07945, 973-543-2093, - Elder, Ramona and I will be at this years reunion. Made reservations today for Friday and Saturday. My check for the banquet is in the mail.
Looking forward to seeing you again. Eric Balderson

BALES, Roger R., DOB 1948, RA15958996, E4, 05H, Tk#4, Det 4, AU68-JL69, (Ida Lee), 8547 Quail Tree, 210-521-6179, & - Elder Green - I know the name, but 35 years is a long time. I'd like to get your newsletter if it's emailed out. I just spent several hours browsing the past newsletters and found a couple of old buddies. When I have some time I'll provide a BIO and some photos if I can still put my hands on them. I found this website by accident but it's locked in now. Thanks for the memories.

BALL, Richard, YOD:??, RA??, Rank in Turkey:??, MOS:??, Det 27, 13JA62-14JN63, name of spouse:??, address:??, phone #:??, - Is there an on-line news letter still available? Served there 1/13/62 - 6/14/63. My reply: Merhaba, Thanks for the email ref Site 23 and the ASA Turkey newsletter that I call DAYS OF OUR LIVES (DOOL). The weekly DOOL is sent out via faithful relayers to over 500 ex-ASAers who served in Turkey. The back issues of the DOOL can also be read at: and it is kept up to date by Bill Simons. We w/b holding our 3rd ASA Turkey reunion at 7 Springs, PA this Labor Day week-end (29-31 Aug 2003). At the reunion I will be giving out the 2003 Memory Book CD-R. It consists of over 500 pages of BIO's, photo's, etc that was sent to me and included in the weekly newsletters that I started in March 2001. We held the 1st reunion at Ft. Devens and the 2002 reunion at Hershey, PA where 126 showed up. DOOL #88 is the 2002 after reunion report. Please up-date your MASTER ROSTER entry by replacing the ?? marks with the needed data ASAP as we're extremely busy helping our youngest son move to his new home in Westmont, PA. Thanks, Elder RC Green

BAYARD, John E4 059 Det 27, DE61-JN63, Elder and Chuck. Changed my email address a while back. Sent out a notification but haven't gotten a DOOL since. Can you please update the distro list. Cok tesh. jb [Done- - -gH]

BENDER, Bill, E4, 05K, Det 4-4 JA70-JL71, (Dawn), 101 Glennbrook Ct. Chalfont PA 18914, , 1-800-877-3367, - Dear Elder: We should be able to confirm our attendence this week. Dawn has to work a few weekends each month and the damn schedule keeps changing. I just got back from a business trip to Moscow and I took some great shots of Red Square, the Kermlin and other places around the city. Moscow is certainly one place I never thought I'd see! I'll be back to yo this week.

CAPOZZOLI, Wm Jr., (Cappy), W2 T/A Det 4, JA74-JA75 & Det 4-2, - [edited] Hi Elder, I was in Turkey twice: one tour at Det 4 (Jan 74-Dec74), one tour at Det 4-2 at Incirlik in Adana. I found you from Dan Taylor. I will not be able to make the 7 Springs Thing this year. I will work on my BIO and I assume that lt is best that I relate my experiences on the Hill primarily. The Memory Book CD-R sounds like a good thing, way to go. Cappy

COX, James R. (Jim), RA14820047, E4/E5. MP, Det 4, MR66-FE67, (Vicki), 1711 Pomotaw Trail, Anniston, AL 36206, 256-236-5872, I, after finding your site, was going to attend this years reunion. However, my daughter will be giving birth during that week. What are the chances of having next years reunion in Pittsburgh? I was the ASA Field Representative (recruiter) in Pittsburgh from November 1967 until January 1970. Is there anyone out there that I recruited? I was assigned there a second time as the army recruiting operation sergeant during the late 70's. There are a lot of sites to see in Pittsburgh. One of the most beautiful sites is of the city as seen from Mt. Washington at night. Pittsburgh has more bridges than any other city in the United States. Just a little trivia. I was able to see the Pirates at old Forbes Field and at Three Rivers Stadium. I would like to see them again in their new stadium. I was in Pittsburgh when the Pirates and the Steelers won national championships the same year. TITLE TOWN. I hope everyone has an enjoyable time at this years reunion. [Jim Cox is exactly right about the city of Pittsburgh. In fact, I recently talked to a Navy Captain who attends many NAVY reunions and he told me that PITTSBURGH is the BEST place to hold a reunion at Station Square. No decision has been made for the 2004 reunion location.]

FUCHS, Russell M., 982 Det 4, FE62-FE63, (Alice),23 Manor Dr., Princeton, NJ 08540, 609-497-1466, - Elder- By way of explanation-Alice and I went to Annapolis 7/2/2003 for a mini reunion with two buddies I served with during my Herzo Base duty. Turns out one of my friends was on the Hill with me when I was there, in the same building, but on the second floor and on a different trick. Talk about a small world when two guys waited 40 years before they saw one another again and then to find out they both served on the Hill before serving together in Germany. He doesn"t remember or have a lot of memorabilia so I got him some pictures from my slides and want to give the patch also. Thanks for your help. ALASMALADIK - Russ

From: Noel Garland Subject: Intell Units in Turkey-1960's? One of my local high school alumni became an Air Force Security Officer after graduating from SMU, in 1957. He lucked out too, and got assignment to a plush soft duty station as described below. As usual, the Air Force made sure their men had good situations to live in, as opposed to us poor ASA workers. Having walked thru Pershing Heights (HQ AFFE/8th Army) one time, in 1957, or 58, I saw how tough those Air Force types had it in their two man rooms, with wardrobe closets, desks, the whole smear. I guess they deserved something for signing up for those four year enlistments. From: Bill Cobb To: Noel Garland Subject: Re: Intell Units in Turkey-1960's? Noel, I was assigned as a brand new 2nd LT to TUSLOG Det 3-1 at Trabzon from April 1958 to June 1959. We lived on the local economy. About three months after I rotated to the States, the facility was completed and everybody moved into government quarters. From what I have read, the result was a loss of contact with the locals. Our primary assignment was to track the USSR missile ranges. The Samsun and Diyarbakir units were doing the same thing. Karamursel was the USAF Group Headquarters for Samsun, Diyarbakir, and Trabzon. Most of the TUSLOG outfits were for support. It is just across the Bosporus from Istanbul. For us at the remote site at Trab, it appeared to be plush duty. Sinop was an Army installation. I believe they had a similar assignment. I seem to remember there was a British outfit at Ordu.

GLASGOW, Harry, DOB: 1940, RA19760496 E3, 059, Det 4, NO63-OC64, (Melitta), 9509 Accotink Rd., Lorton, VA 22079, 703-339-5797, Elder - I have been getting your DOOL reports from Dan Taylor. He recently asked us all to pass our E-Mail addresses to you directly. I was at Det 4 from November 1963 to October 1964. I was an 059 (E3), and spent most of my tour on mids sending out the daily intercept log. I lost most of my pictures of the Hill and its inhabitants somewhere along the way. I returned to Devens to teach, and stayed as a civilian employee at Devens after my ETS in 1966. I left Devens in 1989 to take a job at INSCOM at Ft Belvoir, VA. I left INSCOM in 1996 for a job at DIA, and retired from there in July 2001. I won't be able to make the reunion at 7- Springs. Güle güle

MYERS, Don Creig E4 05K Det 4-4, JA70-JN71, 810 fm 1960 w Houston, TX 77090, 281-209-9249, - Please note my new email address.

MYHRE, Leon DOB:1939 RA17493292 E4 Ration Breakdown Det 4, OC59-SE60, (Ruth), 917 E. Grove St., Caledonia, MN 55921 507-725-2122, - [edited] Re: DOOL distribution list. I have not received any DOOL's to send to my dad. Have I been added to the list? Best Regards, Scott L. Myhre

SINOR, Walter, E4, F&AO, Det 27, 62-63, (Betty), 3049 County Road 239, Valley Head, AL 35989-4721, (256)635-6860, 877-453-5097 (toll free), - Elder, I know you have a lot on your plate. I do plan on attending the ASA Turkey reunion in August and have made reservations at 7 Springs. I will get you a check in the mail this weekend for the banquet. One correction for the Jul 11 #123 Days of our lives. I was there 62-63 instead of 63-64. Thanks!

SLESINGER, Burt YOB: 1929 02-03 9620 Det 4, 4JL58-MY59, (Sandi), 722 Wing Foot Ln., Melbourne FL 32940, 321-254-2134, If you know ASAers whom you think might be interested in being listed, please ask them to contact me with their complete snail-mail address, phone number, name of significant other (if such is the case), and a brief bio of ASA service (unit, location, and years (e.g. TUSLOG Det 4, Sinop, 58-59; Hq ASA Europe, Frankfurt, 59-62; etc.)). I'll take care
of the rest. Oh, if any element of your line above is blank, please e-mail the info
to me. If you don't want your phone number listed, tell me. Thanks. GOOD HUNTING & BE WELL!
Burt Slesinger :-) :<) (^.^)

STEPHENS, Howard C., (Steve), E4, Det 27, DE60-SE62, (Judy), 3149 Tamarron Dr., Rochester Hills, MI 48309, 248-375-0081, - A couple of week ago, you asked me how I come up with some of the graphics in my e-mails. There's a free service if you use MS Outlook, it's pretty simple. I upgraded my Outlook for free with this new Hotbar! It is the coolest thing to happen to email ever! You can add backgrounds, smiles , animation and eCards to your emails. I it!Click here to get it too, and let me know how it goes.

WINKLER, Harold S., (Winky), DOB: 1937, RA?, Det 4, MY60-MY61, (Bernice-Bobbie), 12195 Thames Pl., Cincinnati, OH 45241, 513-489-5308, [edited] Please send me six Det 4 patches. I'm enclosing check for $20. for patches and shipping. [sent- - -gH]

To All ex-ASA'ers. The two predecessors of ASA the Signal Intelligence Service (SIS) and the Signal Security Service (SSS) was obviously segued into Army Security Service, but the acronym ASS didn't resonate too well. Hence, the "Agency" nomenclature which was also adopted by the Central Intelligence Agency and other subsequent government organizations.

There is another auspicious September 15th in ASA history. In 1950 the Inchon Landing in the Korean War was assured by timely Communications Intelligence (Code-Breaking) supplied by ASA Pacific in Tokyo. General MacArthur himself acknowledged it. John Milmore - July 4, 2003


Scotch & Holy Water:

This is a hillarious recollection of a man's adventures from his 10 years in Turkey. It is amusing to both cultures and provides great insight for any American travelling in, or wishing to know more about the Turksish culture.
What's in a Name?
By Mehmet Ali Demirbacak
(aka John Tumpane)

When we first started our contractin Turkey in 1958, my "favorite" brother always insisted that we use the legally-registered name of our company in all correspondence. "It is `The Tumpane Company, Inc.'" Jim growled at one of our first staff meetings. "It is not `Tumpane Company.' It is not `The Tumpane Co.' It is, and always will be, `The Tumpane Company, Inc.' Now, does everybody in this room understand that?"
I raised my hand.
"Yes," he said in his long-suffering voice, "what do you
"What about `TUMCO'?"
"Oh, TUMCO is our logo. That's all right for vehicle markings or signs. But I'm talking about correspondence. Whether it's in English or in Turkish, the official name of our company is `The Tumpane Company, Inc.' Now, are there any more stupid questions?"
He glared at me--daring me to open my mouth again.
"No, sir," I said sweetly, "we all understand perfectly."
He mumbled something under his breath and dismissed us.
From time to time throughout the years, someone would goof. A piece of correspondence would cross Jim's desk in which the word "Company" was not spelled out in full, or someone would forget to add the "Inc." Jim would blow his stack and all the secretaries would be in tears. But the storm would soon blow over.

In 1966 the Turkish PTT (Postal, Telegraph & Telephone Department) put out a new telephone directory and our company name wasn't in it. They didn't publish a new directory every year--this was only the third one they put
out since we had arrived in Ankara in 1958. Naturally, we weren't in the first one, but after we missed out on the second one in 1962, I read the riot act to Sedat Tahir, our Customs Liaison man.
When my secretary brought in the third one, I grabbed it and started searching the "T's." Jim's name was in it--my name was in it--but no company name! I called Sedat on the intercom and told him to come up to my office. "Immediately!"
He marched in and saluted. "Yes, boss?"
"Sedat, we've been in Turkey eight years--EIGHT YEARS!--and we're still not in the telephone book!"
Sedat grabbed the book and searched wildly through it. Then he hung his head in shame as I continued my tirade.
"Sedat, you remember the last time--I told you to be sure we got in the next edition. Now, what exactly do we have to do to get in the telephone book? Do we have to give a rushvet(bribe) to someone? You know the Tumpane Company has never, ever, given rushvets. Do I have to go down to the PTT in person and throw myself at the feet of the PTT Mudur(Manager), begging him to please put our company name in his directory? I will, you know--I'm shameless! I'm not afraid of losing face. Oh, Allah, Allah, save me!"
Sedat took the book and silently slunk out of the office.
Five minutes later he was back with his finger stuck in the book. He plopped it on my desk, flipped it open and said triumphantly, "There!"
Sure enough, the company's name was there. It was listed
under "The."

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