From: "ercgreen" email@example.com
Subject: DAYS OF OUR LIVES #110
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:12:12 -0600
MAIL-call - PRESERVING FORGOTTEN MEMORIES
I welcome articles, BIO's, stories, etc and certainly hope that all ASA Turkey Vet's will contribute and make the newsletter worthwhile. You can write whatever message you would like, and it will at my discretion, show up right here for others to read and I'm hoping it will spur more memories. After all, isn't that why you're reading this now? I will respond to all e-mails and will assist whenever needed, but reserve the right to edit for content and clarity and welcome any errors that may appear herein. You received this newsletter because you requested it. To unsubscribe from this newsletter send an email to me or your relayer. Thank you, Elder RC Green, aka gH, 3094 Warren Rd., Indiana, PA 15701, 724-349-7305, firstname.lastname@example.org
Procrastination is a perilous thing. We're all guilty of procrastinating and we all have a case of the "what ifs" that we wish we could rectify. It does little good to lament over spilled milk. To all of you who say that it's too late, I must beg to differ. If you haven't wrote your BIO and all the stories you know, you risk losing priceless opportunities. Certainly and more than that, though, they are lost occasions for others to get to know you on a much deeper level. Maybe now is the time to stop procrastinating and get started with your BIO. As a result, we can learn a great deal from one another and continue to learn. In the meantime, we also can and will form closer friendships. Unfortunately, I guess many vet's feel that they will be around forever, and didn't have the good judgment to write down their Turkey experiences. Now, over forty years late The DOOL Memory Book is priceless, and the BIO's and photo's therein preserves the stories of what is now lost. For most everyone, getting aclimated to Turkey was a rough road. Part of that roughness was doing all the mundane things. A lot of vet's missed the opportunity or flatly refused to partake of Special Services sponsored trips.
I NEED YOUR BIO'S - Prior to starting the DAYS OF OUR LIVES and the reunion's I dabbed as a genealogy buff into finding my ancestors and there were many times I have wished that an ancestor had wrote about his or her lives, so that their lives would have more meaning to me than just a name, address, date of birth and death, etc. Some might say, "So what. I dont give a damn, its not my cup of tea." Wait a minute......, lets not be complacent about our lives. These BIOs is a way and an opportunity to identify ourselves and to draw everyone closer and reunite as a sorta family in our unique ASA Turkey bond, replete with all the stories. We all need to have a sense of belonging and an understanding of who others are. We need think of the ASA Turkey and the DOOL's as an extended group of friends and that will be the way it will be when we meet in 7 Springs, PA. Perhaps these suggestions will provide directions Just put the pen to the paper, or the fingers on the keyboard, and write whatever comes to mind. Try and focus on certain things or questions and include the good and bad times. Try and list events, memories and emotions. Be honest. Write about your reaction to certain events while on active duty rather than just the facts and you might see a snowball effect. For example: Your reaction to the mandatory monthly training at the theater. Dont try and hide your wide range of feelings and thoughts. Remembering gives true meaning because all of us donned a uniform to protect the freedom and rights that some take for granted. - - - Start with your date and place of birth, then mention the DAYS OF YOUR LIFE from then until the present. Within the memory Book I've interspersed quoatations to emphasize or amplify important points. These brief observations, opinions, remarks , witticisms and "one liners" give us a stimulating insight into the thought process of other ex-ASA'ers who served in Turkey.
CUMMINGS, Ed E4 058 Det 27, 62-64, (Irene), 6112 E. Calle Del Media, Scottsdale, AZ 85225, 480-941-0547, email@example.com (deceased. The details are not available)
Please take Edward G. Cummings off your mailing list. He is deceased. Thank you, his widow - Irene Cummings, firstname.lastname@example.org
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THE ATTACHED WP-50 IS PATTY AND THE gH AT WEST POINT WHERE OUR OLDEST SON RECEIVED A DOCTOR OF PHYSICAL THERAPY DEGREE.
ABRIALS, Thomas E (Muzzle Loading) Det 4, 57-58, 1901 Somersby Ln., VA Beach, VA 23456 757-427-3016, email@example.com - Hello! Somewhat surprised to hear directly from you concerning Det 4-Sinope. From what I see, most of your particpants are from some other detachment and likely never got to the hill. After about nine months on the hill, I was sent to Ankara as the guy who bought the food and stuff for the site; and trucked it up there over the mountains. Keep in mind, this is in the timeframe of 1957-1958 and the going was rough. Hence, I don't know how we would fit into the situation. Regards, Tom 'Muzzle Loading" Abrials, Virginia Beach, Virginia
ACKERMAN, Don, (Bloody) DOB: 28AP40 RA12581624 204 Det 4, FE-JL60 & 4-2, JL-OC60, (Ann), 755 Quail Ln., Anaheim Hills, CA 714-281 1258, firstname.lastname@example.org. - I worked for 1LT Stevenson in Ops B as a 204 for about 4 months. I can't recall Stevenson's first name, but he was well liked by his subordinates, including me. Once he put me and my drinking buddy, Larry George on extra duty for a no-no that we did. I cant recall what the infraction was, but do remember painting the ops compound outhouse Red and Gold. Anyone remember those colors in the outhouse? I bunked in what we called a Jameway hut. We had no wall lockers and we had to hang our clothes on make-shift spots or simply strewn on the bunks. Four of us shared these living conditions. Remember being on guard duty until enough "yenis" arrived to bounce me out to OJT in Ops B. I spent a lot of time in the EM Club with Larry George and Abrams. Back then booze was a major part of my life and a Salty Dog was my favorite drink. Guess it was for all of us on the 'hill'. Can't remember where or who gave me the nickname of "Bloody". It's sorta nice to think back to when we were young and dumb. I remember an incident at Sinop when a GI (can't remember his name) stole money from the shoe shine boy. The base did a thorough search and the money was found in one of the outhouses. Soon the thief was found and taken to the privy. The no-good pilferer confessed and Major Rintoul, the base commander directed that the kleptomaniac be lowered into the pit and when he was close to the 'honey', the holders dropped him into the %&*$. Another laughable thing that I was involved in during my short stint at Sinop - The grass inside the Ops fence needed cut badly and we knew that sooner than later - we'd be detailed to push those mowers - so 5 of us (Larry George, Paul Krause, Don Goss, ? Fern and me) went to town and bought 4 GOATS to do the mowing for us. The goats solved the mowing tasks for a short time. It wasn't long until the goats had eaten all the grass and even the roots. I don't remember what happened to those goats? I remember taking R&R to Ankara. Made it to the Class XI store so we could spend this months and last months chits on booze. In July 1960, three of us from "the hill" were reassigned to Det 4-2 at Incirlik AFB in Adana and then onto Pakistan. We were flying in the A3D that "the Swede" talks about on his duty roster page. The 058 or 059 that went with me was named Starenchek (sp). (One time) "we bombed the hill". When we were flying out over the Black sea one day I could see the hill. On the next mission, I brought some toilet paper rolls with me and the Navy pilot got pretty low over the hill and I tossed out the TP. I was discharge in 1961 and have been selling computers ever since.
ARENA, Darrell, DOB: 10MY31, 04, Ops O &
XO, Det 4, JL63-JL64 & 06, CO, MY73-AP74, (Patricia), 45375
Vista Place, King City, CA 93930, 831-385-5800, email@example.com. - Merhaba, Elder. Thanks for your note in re Det 4 and
the map of the ol' base. Brings back lots of memories. I'll check
your ASA Turkey Weekly Newsletter web site later, but am looking
forward to what you find to say in it on a weekly basis. Yes,
there was a drug problem at Sinop, but more on that in a bit.
First, I'll update some personal data. Actually, I served two
tours at Sinop. The first tour was from July 63 - July 64. At
that time I was the Ops Officer for 10 months, then XO for the
last two months under Bob Fechtman. The CO when I got there in
July 63 was Dick Lepke. Fechtman took over in about May or June
1964 I believe. I replaced Chet Crowell in May 73 as the CO. Don
MacKinnon was XO at the time. He was replaced by Bob
Oberbroekling in, I believe, July 1973. (You can verify that with
Don.) I left Sinop in April 1974. My replacement wasn't due until
June, so Bob assumed command until then. I don't recall who the
CSM was when I took over from Chet, but Bill Bowser, an old 3rd
RRU buddy of mine, came in about a month later.
That letter from Carl Akers is rather interesting. He probably was assigned to the 5th Signal, but as you know, all units in Turkey had so-called "cover designations", i.e., TUSLOG Det something-or-other. Det 4 was really USASA Field Station, Sinop. Your were correct when you asked if our signal support was designated Det 66-1. Concerning the "drug problem" at Sinop, it came to a head shortly after I got there. Many of the details are fuzzy, and maybe Don can fill in some of them. What brought it to a head was the arrest of one of our ASA GI's in, I think, June 73. He was about to return to CONUS and had stashed a number of slides of hashish in his hold baggage. The Turkish cops were apparently aware of the dealing going on between some of the GI's and at least one or more taxi drivers. They came on post and asked to search the kid's hold baggage and quickly found the hash. He was immediately arrested and taken to the prison in Sinop. His arrest caused quite a bit of concern on the hill. Many of our GI's thought the base was strictly US property not realizing that it was a "Common Defense Installation." Once word got out that our guys could be arrested and jailed by the Turks, the drug problem ceased almost immediately. A lot of drug paraphernalia was flushed down the toilets or buried on the hill. I gotta tell you, the Turkish jail was hell. What saved the kid from a trial and long term sentence was an amnesty granted after one of the Turkish elections held that summer. He was released probably in July 73 and we immediately whisked him out of the country. Some months later hash started appearing again and we had an Air Force OSI agent on the hill for a time to help weed out the problem. As I recall, we busted a couple of guys and gave them either Article 15 or Summary Court. Regarding the so called "race problem", I don't believe we had one, at least not during my tour. All the units on the base had either their own barracks exclusively, or shared a barrack but with their own designated areas. Besides our ASA companies (HHC, Co. A), we had an AFSS Det with about 100 folks, an NSG Det with about 15, and
Det 66-1. I don't recall the size of 66-1 but guess it had about 35-40 people. I certainly don't recall the troops being segregated into black and white areas. By the way, we got our first WACs at Sinop during my stint there. We had to build a separate area for them on the second floor of the HHC billets, i.e., their own entrance, etc. That was the only real segregated area!
Regarding the Master Roster, I just noticed that you have Ralph Myers as serving from April 72-April 73. He actually left a month or two after I got there (right Ralph?). Hope the above info is helpful. If you need more, let me know, though I have to tell you, my "senior moments" occur with alarming regularity!! Warm regards, and hope to CUL. Looking forward to your next DOOL. KTF Darrell
P.S. Do you ever go to the FASAF reunions? We try and make every other one, and will be in Bradenton, FLA this May.
BIEBER, Bernard A CT2 NAVDET 4, JL64-SE65,
Blandon, PA firstname.lastname@example.org. - Mr. Green.. Was forwarded info about your Sinop
site... great site... I, too, had the honor of serving on the
"Hill".... was part of the NavDet for approx 15 mos...
Jul '64 to Sep '65.... loved every minute of my stay there...
will always have fond memories of the Brits, the natives and all
who served there...
BROWN, Wm (Ron), Det 4, NO68-NO69, PO Box 2583 Santa Rosa, CA 95405, 707-535-0416, email@example.com. - [edited] The DAYS OF OUR LIVES is great! Thanks for working on this. I was at Sinop from November 1968 to November 1969. I was also at Ft. Devens, Asmara Eritrea/Eithiopia, Two Rock Ranch, Petaluma, California and Vint Hill Farm, Warrenton, Virginia. Thanks Wm "Ron" Brown
BROWNING, Paul E5 058/059 Det 4 AU66-AU67, 32
Park Ave., Webster, MA, 01570, firstname.lastname@example.org
Glad to hear from you, I will download your site and get back to you. Best Wishes Paul Browning (Sinop 66-67)
CAIRNS, Donald W., E4, 058, Det 4, NO59-OC60, 2501 E-Golf Links Rd., Sierra Vista, AZ 85635, 520-458-9655, email@example.com. - Glad to hear from you. As a form of introduction the name is Donald Cairns an X-ASAer (17 years) (1959-1976). Now living in Sierra Vista, Arizona just outside Ft. Huachuca. Ft. Huachuca, is the home of Military Intelligence (Ft. Devens School moved to Ft Huachuca in the early 90s) and has a MI museum. The museum gets a lot of visitors each day and is one of the highlights of the post. Just thinking what a great idea to have as many books as there were ASA sites around the world and each book reflecting the individuals that were stationed there, when they arrived, friends, and experiences. I am willing to compile these letters and pass them off to the museum as they arrive off of my computer. Asking for you to submit a one or two (please no more then two) page "autobiography" of your assignment. Please type it in #14 print and make it readable (no ^%$*&^*). I will post the progress of the letters from time to time. Thanks Don Cairns
On my second enlistment, brand new out of Ft. Devens 058/05H (Morse code Intercept) school and the first assignment was to Sinop, Turkey. Arrived at Ankara, Turkey early November 1959 and spent a couple of days waiting transportation to Sinop. They loaded about 20 of us on a small bus and away we went; took about 20 hours to drive from Ankara to Sinop. It was one long trip.
Sinop, in 59, was pretty austere. Most of the guys lived in wooden barracks double-bunked and some lived in Jamesway tents. Construction was underway on the "hill" but to the most part there just wasnt much going on. The only permanent building was the church that was just finished prior to my arrival.
The first thing they had us do was to pull guard duty for about a week; wasnt too bad. This is where I met a couple of new guys, Don Lewis and Mike ODell, who went on to be great friends. Got into operations and it was a great mission. Like I said, I was on my second enlistment so I was viewing the military a little different then many of my peers. I was looking to make a career of it (or at least take three years at a time).
On 18 July 60 Don Lewis, Judd Bowers and I were lifeguards at our little section of beach on the Black Sea. We had been having trouble with the Turks stealing etc. and we had been told to just "escort" them off of the section used by the US Soldiers. That afternoon one of the Turks sailed up and we kind of pushed him back into his boat and off the beach. Just after trick change and all the US soldiers left the beach for work two boatloads of Turks came around the cove. The three of us had no where to run and the Turks just beat the hell out of us. Later, after the facts came out, the 10-15 Turks went to jail but meanwhile we were laid up for a few weeks.
Another memory was the amount of dogs on the hill. "Gimp" and some of the other dogs had liter after liter and all the soldiers had one or more of the puppies. It really got out of hand. Anyway, the Provost Sergeant had to start gassing some of the pups and that caused a lot of problems.
The only place to go was the mess hall which was open about 22 hours a day and had pretty good food considering where we were and how hard it was to get supplies to us. Here is where we wrote our letters and talked of things to come.
In early 1960 Don Lewis and I (with the help of the Turks) built the first sail boat to be owned and operated by the GIs. Called it the "Beverly Jeanne" after my fiancée back in Lawrence, Mass. Got caught in a major storm once and was headed out to sea when some Turks came to haul us back to shore; without question, we would have been history.
All in all the year did pass, most of us had a great experience and met some life long friends. Don Lewis, Mike ODell and I all transferred to Bad Aibling, Germany for our next assignment. On the way to BA I flew back to the states, married, and brought my new wife to Germany.
I went on to spend 17 years in ASA and retired in 1976 as a major. I also went on to spend another 21 years in civil service at Ft. Huachuca mostly working for INSCOM. SP/4 Don Cairns Morse code Interceptor Will be keeping in touch. Don Cairns
CARTER, Kenneth (Nick), Det 4, 59-60 & 67-68, 1607 Sweet Apple Ct., Birmingham, AL 35242, 205-995- 8581, firstname.lastname@example.org - Hello Fellow Det 4er. Yes, go ahead and add my name to your list. I just got out of the hospital after a three month stay and now await back surgery. I have a ton of catching up to do. B C N U later. Kenneth (aka "Nick") Carter
CHESSER, Joe E4 Postal Clk Det 27, 60-61,
(Helen), 24 Out of Bounds Rd., Lake Monticello, VA 22963,
434-589-2133, email@example.com (dsl)
I HOPE you have all seen the reports about how Sears is treating its reservist employees who are called up? By law, they are required to hold their jobs open and available, but nothing more. Usually, people take a big pay cut and lose benefits as a result of being called up...
Sears is voluntarily paying the difference in salaries and maintaining all benefits, including medical insurance and bonus programs, for all called up reservist employees for up to two years. I submit that Sears is an exemplary corporate citizen and should be recognized for its contribution.
I suggest we all shop at Sears, and be sure to find a manager to tell them why we are there so the company gets the positive reinforcement it well deserves.
FULTON, Donald G., RA19889202, E4, 05H2HS3YA, Det 4, JA67-DE67, (Linda), Walnut CA 91789 310-606-9572 firstname.lastname@example.org - Merhaba RC, I have received a few of the DOOL emails and enjoy reading and reminicing. My brother Rich Fulton was on the "Hill" in '59. It always makes me laugh when I think about the Hill. When I was completing O5H school in '66 and they came around to ask us about where we would like to go on our first assignment, believe it was called the "dream sheet". The instructor said Private Fulton where would you like to go. I responded " I would like to go to TUSLOG Det 4, Sinop, Turkey". At that moment the instructor looked at me kinda funny and said "come again". So I said the same thing. He said just a minute, I'll be right back. He left the room and re-entered with two SFC types and said Private Fulton, please tell these fine gentlemen where it is that you want to go. SO- I repeated "TUSLOG Det 4, Sinop, Turkey", and at that moment the senior NCO's and our instructor started to laugh and laugh. Then one of the SFC's said, and Private Fulton, please tell us why you want to Turkey. So, I said "well, my brother was assigned there and he said it's the greatest place to go, slow code, beautiful scenery and a girl behind every tree." They then said "Does your brother hate you or something?" and laughed more. Then all the guys around me Dozier and Jim Kesterson etc. began to ask, so what's this place and is it really cool etc. I said it must be 'cause my brother wouldn't lie to me. WELL- when I flew the old 707 from New York to London , to Frankfurt, Vienna and Ankara, I began to really wonder. Then it was the THY airways hop to Samsun a four hour ride in the back of a closed 3/4 ton up to the hill. I didn't know what Yeni meant but soon found out. When I wrote my brother Rich and he didn't respond, I kinda knew then that I was in for a long haul. I left Turkey for Two Rock Ranch in Petaluma, CA, and six months later went to Viet Nam, served at the 8th RRFS in Phu Bai, and then the 2/265th RRU with the 101st Airborne, came state side to Ft. Devens and taught code in "ditty city" , then re-enlisted for Hakata, Japan, stayed there until they closed the base and went to Vint Hill Farms, VA. a little later on they sent me to Pyongtaek, Korea at Camp Casey. I stayed with ASA until I got married to a local national and was farmed out to the regular army. Still have many many fond memories of the gang. We had a mini-reunion in Las Vegas a couple of years ago with Bob Krebs, Wayne Hollingsworth, Ed Smith (Smitty) Norm Ficker, Bill (Ann) Spitler and a couple of others. Man they all got "old".. Ha! Anyway RC I appreciate the DOOL and will continue to look for it. I also found John Gagnon O5B that lives nearby in California, was on the hill in '67, and if I can locate his email I'll send it down the line. AR SK,
KIRBY, Wm C (Bill) E3 C/C Det 4, MR70-AP71, email@example.com I was there are Sinop Mar 70 to April 71. I was a PFC when I got there and when I left. I worked in the commcenter and the switchboard while I was there. Thank you for writing me I checked out the download you sent and the letters that were posted there. I think they are great. Bill Kirby
KOOB, Kenneth L., DOB: 6JA45, 98GRU, E4-E5, Det 4, 66-67, (Janet), 26887 State Hwy 104, Glenwood, MN 56334, 320-278-3725, firstname.lastname@example.org. Contacted on 22 March 2003. Was surprised to hear from soneone inquiring about hit Tour of Duty at Sinop. Owned a All-State Insurance Agency for years. Sold it and now works with his wife at a Travel Agency. Remembers Al Chelik, Steve Donohue, Doc Hegewald and Ted Garcia and many others that he could not recall during the conversation, but said that he would find old orders and photo's and send them to me for my use. Said that he has a copy of a story written by Al Chelik about the Mary's at Sinop. Also said that he thought that Ted Garcia married a Japanese gal and might be living in Japan.
LA BRECQUE, Henry (Hank), 05, CO, Det 4, 68-69, email@example.com. [edited] - Hi. Received your message and will review the DOOL newsletters as suggested. I'll be in touch later to provide more details from my tour of 68/69. Thanx. Henry (Hank) LaBrecque
LEE, Jack R., POIC, NAVDET 4, MR63-MY63 & JL64-SE64, firstname.lastname@example.org - I was in the USN and at Sinop two times: Mar63-May63 (op) and Jul64-Sep64 (POIC). Two of my shipmates: Bernard Bieber (email@example.com) and John Braswell (braswell firstname.lastname@example.org) were also there
MacKINNON, Don 04 XO Det 4, AU72-AU73, 7809 Walnut Tree Rd., Severn MD 21144, 410-969-7057, email@example.com - [edited] - Hi, Elder Green: I am Don MacKinnon and I was the XO at Det 4 from August 72 until August 73. After these many years I have no recollection of a Carl Akers. Nor do I recall that there was a significant drug problem during that period, but then I'm not always sure what I did yesterday! Of course evidence of pot use was discovered from time to time but nothing abnormal. I do recall, well, the incident over the young guy who got caught shipping the pot home sealed under his tape deck. They stood with him on the corner, by the PX and waited until the taxi driver was brought by. If he had kept his mouth shut he probably would have been better off...but he waved to the taxi driver and said Hi. That sort of sealed his fate. During my tour on the 'hill' there was never a racial issue raised. In fact, the incident that Akers mentioned doesn't sound familiar at all. I think it is important to consider that when you read his letter you realize he is rambling on about a variety of things. He mentions being interrogated in the "hospital" by several doctors. We only had a small clinic and one doctor! But thanks for sending it along. I'm wondering if Akers case maybe happened after I had rotated in July. I just don't remember it at all. He refers to being interrogated by several doctors at our "hospital". Except for ol' Joe Heffernan, who else was there? I have looked at your site and I enjoyed it. I might point out that Col Chester Crowell passed away a few years ago. I'm really benefiting from my TRICARE coverage. Been in the hospital a number of times in the past year for Angina problems. Had two small heart attacks last year and gave my family a real scare a couple weeks ago when I passed out due to low BP. Getting older is certainly wonderful! For your info.....Chaplain Billy Graham also passed away a few years ago. He was there at the same time as myself. By the way....if you did nothing else with this Akers scenero, you enabled me to find Col Arena's email address again. Thanks and best wishes to you.
MOSER, Alan H DOB 22JL29 RA17275672 E6 98C3LRU Det 4, AU64-AU65, (Mary), 14625 S. Locust St., Olathe, KS 66062, 913-782-6392, firstname.lastname@example.org, CW2, Ret - Elder, I just read the BIO of James R. Cox in DOOL # 109. His references to the bombing of the water station and the water shortage were strangely familiar. After re-reading my bio in DOOL # 108 I realized typos and a bad memory had led me astray. Typo: Hoover died in Oct 1964. Memory: I've lost or misplaced my Army records so I date events by events that effected me. After the water supply was bombed Det 4 was supplied with water from I don't know where by a water tanker twice a week. The tanker driver was an E-5 wearing three chevrons and a rocker. He had been told to remove the superseded insignia and wear the correct three chevrons of an E-5. [The Army had changed the insignia of the rank.] He didn't want to change his insignia because he worked with the Turks and they would take the change as being a "bust." About that time, I made Sp6 but Det 4 supply didn't have SP6 stripes. I wrote the Fort Meade QM with a check. They sent my stripes and my change in handkerchiefs. I'm still "spending" that change. At that time the rumor was that when the Army set up the site water supply they improved the supply for about half of the town of Sinop. So the bombers weren't too well thought of at the foot of the hill. Does anyone remember 'Don the knife-maker?' From Sinop I went to Harrowgate [rumor had it that the natives spoke English]. Another SP6 982 arrived at the same time with a request for compassionate re-assignment and got the job. I'd like to know his name to thank him: Mary and I went to Berlin where we adopted our daughter. If I had received the Harrowgate assignment the adoption would never have happened. Also, due to the dragging out of the adoption proceedings we had almost five years in Berlin. Thanks [you all] for the memories, both mine and yours. Alan
MUSICK, John R (Buddy) Det 4, AP56-MR57, (Suzanne), 6602 Trebeck Ln., Spring, TX 77379, 281-376-1558, email@example.com. - Elder, I have more and as soon as I locate them I will send them along. I just closed my office down and moved every thing home in boxes. Reading DOOL's really brings back some good memories. Thanks, Buddy
RAY, Russ Det 4, 68-69, firstname.lastname@example.org. I met Brian Alpert, a fellow "Sinopian" in the Yahoo ASAVets Group. He tells me that you put out a newsletter concerned with ASA in Turkey. I was stationed at TUSLOG Det 4 in 1968-69, if I have the years right. I would be interested in receiving the newsletter if you could add my email address (email@example.com) to your distribution.
SIMONS, Bill, E3-E4 058 DE59-DE60, (Patricia
Anne), 155 Newbolds Corner Rd., Southampton, NJ 08088, firstname.lastname@example.org -
Good Morning Elder, Just a note to commend you for your decision not to post email opinions about the war in Iraq in the Days of Our Lives newsletters. As a man, who I'm sure has strong opinions about the situation yourself, I appreciate your restraint for the good of the ASA/Turkey/DOOL community in this regard. You, your family members and especially your son, have my best wishes for their safety and good health in these unsettled times. Bill
RIZZETTO, Bob (Scooter) DOB: 17JL40,
US52502902, E3-E4, 058, Tk#4, Det 27, 60-MR62, 1609
Schoenersville Rd., Bethlehem, PA., 18018, 610-861-0220, email@example.com [edited] GOOD MEMORIES. GOOD MEMORIES. I WANT TO THANK
ROY DESRUISSEAUX FOR PUTTING ME IN TOUCH WITH YOU AND THE DOOL
WEBSITE. I'M IN THE BEGIN STAGE OF READING THEM ALL. THERE IS A
REASON FOR ME TYPING THIS EMAIL IN ALL CAPS AND ITS NOT THAT I'M
USING A MILL. MORE ABOUT THAT LATER!
I AM A NATIVE NEW YORKER. WAS DRAFTED INTO THE ARMY AND SOMEHOW WAS DRAFTED INTO THE ASA AND WAS SENT TO FORT DEVENS FOR PROCESSING. AT DEVENS THEY MUSTERED TOGETHER A CLASS OF 10 DRAFTEES TO ATTEND MORSE CODE TRAINING. I HAD NO TROUBLE LEARNING MORSE CODE. IN FACT - I ENJOYED IT. WENT TO NEW YORK CITY ALMOST EVERY WEEKEND. AFTER THE DITTY- BOP TRAINING - WAS ASSIGNED TO DET 27 IN TURKEY IN 1960 FOR THE REMAINDER OF MY TWO YEAR HITCH. DET 27 WAS STILL BEING CONSTRUCTED AND THE OPERATIONS WAS STILL IN ITS INFANT STAGE. I BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE ABOUT 10 OF US 058'S TO A TRICK. THE BARRACKS WERE BRAND NEW AND 2 GI'S WERE ASSIGNED TO A ROOM. WHEN I LEFT THERE WERE 4 TO A ROOM - SO THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH DET 27 GREW.
I TRIED OUT AS A SHORTSTOP FOR THE BASEBALL TEAM THAT WAS BEING FORMED BY COACH LT BOBBY GENE MIZE TO GO TDY TO LIBYA FOR SOME GAMES. EVEN THOUGH I WAS A PRETTY GOOD BALLPLAYER - I DIDN'T MAKE THE TEAM BECAUSE I COULDN'T PUT THE BAT ON THE BALL DURING BATTING PRACTICE. THE RIGHT HANDED PITCHER HAD PITCHED FOR MICHIGAN STATE'S NCAA BASEBALL TEAM AND HAD A BLAZING FAST BALL THAT FEW OF US COULD HIT. I'VE FORGOTTEN HIS NAME, BUT HAVE WONDERED IF HE EVER MADE IT TO THE MAJOR LEAGUES AS HE WAS THAT GOOD. DO REMEMBER THAT HE DROPPED OUT OF COLLEGE BEFORE HE GRADUATED. IT WAS DURING THE TEAM INFIELD PRACTICE THAT I GOT TAGGED WITH THE 'SCOOTER' NICKNAME AND IT STUCK TO THIS VERY DAY. AT THAT TIME PHIL RIZZUTO WAS THE NEW YORK YANKEE SHORTSTOP AND I WAS FROM NEW YORK AND WAS TRYING OUT AS A SHORTSTOP - THAT LT MIZE STARTED CALLING ME SCOOTER.
I READ ABOUT THE HERETOFOR UNKNOWN TREE PULLER AT SITE 23. THE GUILTY HOOLIGAN WAS A 058 AND MY ROOMMATE. AT THIS LATE STAGE IN MY LIFE I DO NOT CONSIDER MYSELF AS BLABBING ON BILL JUNKIN. BILL GOT BOOZED UP AT THE NCO CLUB AND ON HIS SOUSED WAY BACK TO THE BARRACKS WALKED DOWN THROUGH THE FOOTBALL FIELD AND YANKED THEM ALL OUT. RATHER CHILDISH TODAY, BUT LAUGHABLE THEN. IT CAUSED QUITE A STIR WITH THE POST COMMANDER AND BECAUSE OF IT THE MANZARALI MAULER NEWSPAPER BEGAN AS A FLYER THAT WAS PREPARED IN OPERATIONS AND CIRCULATED THROUGHOUT THE POST. SEVERAL GI'S WERE CALLED ON THE CARPET FOR PULLING THE TREE'S, BUT MY GOOD FRIEND BILL JUNKIN WAS NOT ONE OF THEM. THEY NEVER DID FIND OUT WHO DID IT, BUT THE OSI WAS ALMOST CERTAIN THAT A KID FROM MISSISSIPPI DID THE PULLING AND HE WAS READ THE RIOT ACT - IT HAPPENED SO LONG AGO THAT I'VE FORGOTTEN THE OTHER LAUGHABLE THINGS THAT WE DID AT MANZARALI. WE WERE JUST KIDS! BILL JUNKIN AND I TOOK LEAVE AND WENT TO ATHENS WHERE WE BOUGHT A 55 CHEVY FROM A USAF DUDE FOR $900.00 AND DROVE IT BACK TO MANZARALI. ONCE A FRIEND, BOB KENNEDY, BORROWED IT AND HAD AN ACCIDENT IN ANKARA. CAN'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS OF THAT ACCIDENT, BUT DO REMEMBER THAT WE SOLD IT FOR $2400.
I RECALL THAT ME AND 8 OTHER WENT TO THE AIR FORCE NCO CLUB IN ANKARA ON CHRISTMAS EVE OF 61' TO CELEBRATE AND MISSED THE BUS BACK TO POST. THE ONLY MP THAT I REMEMBER WHILE AT DET 27 - WAS A CORPORAL, THEN MADE BUCK SARG. BIG GUY. ABOUT 6' 5'. REAL SPIT AND POLISH MP WHO ENJOYED HIS JOB. I REMEMBER DICK RUDELL, JOE KELLY, RUSS DAVIS -BIG BLACK DADDY FROM CHICAGO, DAN BORDERS WHO I KEPT IN TOUCH WITH BEFORE HE PASSED AWAY FROM DIABETES. DAN HAD SUGAR BAD AND WENT INTO THE HOSPITAL IN THE WACO, TEXAS AREA TO HAVE A BIG TOE CUT OFF, BUT HE NEVER MADE IT OUT OF THE HOSPITAL SO I'VE BEEN TOLD. HE WAS SUCH A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE. ALSO REMEMBER BILL COWIE FROM CHICAGO, BOB WALLACE FROM BROOKLYN, DAN LEVY FROM LOUISIANA AND BOB KENNEDY FROM BRISTOL, PA WHO LATER LOST A LEG IN A CAR ACCIDENT. ALSO REMEMBER A EX-058 BY THE NAME OF HENRY COYLE WHO EVERYONE OWED GAMBLING DEBTS TO. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE 058 WHO WENT HOME FOR THE 1961 CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS, BUT BEFORE HE LEFT HE TOLD US TO TUNE INTO SUCH AND SUCH A FREQUENCY ON CHRISTMAS DAY AND HE WOULD BE SENDING THEM A MESSAGE VIA MORSE CODE. SURE TO HIS WORD, THE MANZARALI 058'S LISTENED AND WERE ABLE TO HEAR HIS DITS AND DAHS FROM NORTH CAROLINA.
LET ME TELL YOU AND OTHERS WHO WILL BE READING THIS, A LITTLE MORE ABOUT MYSELF. I LIVE IN BETHLEHEM, PA. ORIGINALLY FROM ALLENTOWN, PA. NINE MONTHS AFTER I WAS DISCHARGED AND THANKS TO THE ASA FOR GIVING ME A TOP SECRET CRYPTO CLEARANCE, I WAS IN TRAINING AS A SIGINT OFFICER WITH THE CIA. FOUR DAYS BEFORE MY FIRST CIA ASSIGNMENT - TO AFRICA - I WAS IN A CAR ACCIDENT IN THE LANGLEY, VIRGINIA AREA. MY NECK WAS BROKEN AND HAVE BEEN PARALYZED SINCE 63'. I WAS IN THE BACK SEAT OF A 1958 FORD T-BIRD AND IN BETWEEN TWO PRETTY GOOD LOOKING BLONDES WHO WERE SEATED IN THE BUCKET REAR SEATS WHEN THE AVOIDABLE ACCIDENT HAPPENED. THE DRIVER WAS A CLASSMATE AT CIA AND WE WERE OUT CELEBRATING AND HAD JUST PICKED UP THREE YOUNG LADIES AND WERE HEADED DOWN A DIRT ROAD AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED. JUST BEFORE THE DISASTER - I LOOKED AT THE SPEEDOMETER AND IT READ 105 MPH. I PLEADED WITH THE DRIVER TO SLOW DOWN AND THE LAST THING I REMEMBER WAS SLAMMING INTO A TREE ON THE PASSENGER SIDE, THE YOUNG GIRL IN THE FRONT SEAT DIED INSTANTLY AND BECAUSE I WAS IN THE MIDDLE SORTA HUMP AREA OF THE T-BIRD - MY HEAD WAS VIOLENTLY SLAMMED INTO THE ROOF AND MY RIGHT LEG WAS SNAPPED LIKE A TREE LIMB. I WAS IN A COMA FOR OVER 3 WEEKS. THE DRIVER AND THE OTHER TWO GIRLS SURVIVED THE CRASH WITH ONLY MINOR BRUISES. THEY REPAIRED MY LEG WITH PINS AND IN 2002 I HAD TO HAVE IT AMPUTATED AS THE PINS BY NOW HAD CAUSED IT TO BEOME INFECTED.
ELDER - I'M REALLY GLAD TO HAVE FOUND YOUR WEBSITE. I ENJOY IT. AS ALL CAN SEE I AM NOT PROFICIENT WITH THIS COMPUTER. THERE IS A LOT OF TASKS I CAN'T DO. I HAVE A LOT OF PICTURES. I RECENTLY MOVED TO A HANDICAPPED ACCESSABLE APARTMENT AND CAN'T FIND HALF OF MY STUFF. WHEN I FIND MY LITTLE GREEN BOOK I'LL SEND YOU NAMES AND ADDRESSES THEREIN. YOUR WEB SITE HAS BROUGHT BACK A LOT OF GOOD MEMORIES. I WAS EXTENDED IN TURKEY BECAUSE OF THE BERLIN WALL AND HAD NOT THAT EVENT TAKEN PLACE I MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LEAD A MUCH BETTER LIFE THAN I'VE BEEN AND STILL AM GOING THROUGH.
I WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THE 7 SPRINGS REUNION, BUT BECAUSE OF MY HANDICAPS THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE. I MOST CERTAINLY WILL APPRECIATE RECEIVING THE 2003 MEMORY BOOK. THANK YOU, SCOOTER
SANCHEZ, Angelo 03 Det 4, JL81-JL82, firstname.lastname@example.org - Hi! My name is Angelo Sanchez, retired LTC, MI and I was stationed at DET 4 in Sinop from July 1981-July 1982. I was assigned as the Special Security Officer for TUSLOG DET 4 Fld Station Sinop. I'm sending a picture of me standing in front of Hippodrome....good memories of the DOOM and all the fun things we use to do on Sundays...Flag Football, Softball, Shuffleboard, watching "Midnight Express" at the DOOM (prohibited in Turkey at that time). Angelo Sanchez, Intelligence Specialist, USARSO G-2 Theater Engage-ment,(787) 707-2774
SLESINGER, Burt DOB: 15NO29 02-03 9620 Det 4, 4JL58-MY59, (Sandi), 722 Wing Foot Ln., Melbourne FL 32940, 321-254-2134, email@example.com. - The Miscellaneous section of my next output will include your request for Turkey vets to contact you. Incidentally, the only thing I believe I can identify in the 1959 gate picture is the white building up on the right, which I seem to remember as the PX. Beyond it was unit headquarters and the ops area. Passing the Hq building and continuing around to the left, I seem to recall the mess hall and dispensary (or dispensary and messhall), the EM Club, the O Club/BOQ - beyond all of which, to your right, was the Kara Deniz. How far off am I? Burt
Exchange between Roger Glubka and Connie Stallings
STALLINGS, Connie L American Embassy - friend of John & Betty O'brien, 349 E 50th St., NYC., 212-752-9047, firstname.lastname@example.org
GLUBKA, Roger A (Butch) DOB: 19MY44 E1-E3-E1 72B Det 27, FE64-JL65, (CW3 Michelle), PSC 303, BX 25 APO AP 96204-0025 (Korea), email@example.com
Ms. Stallings - I am Roger Glubka and I'm one
of Elder's "relay" members. I just wanted to comment I
too have read "Scotch and Holy Water (a couple of times) and
have two copies. I've encouraged other readers of the DOOL's to
read this book just for the memories and the laughs. If you
didn't spend time in Turkey you can't relate to the smells,
sounds, habits, tastes, and etc; it's like trying to explain
basic training if you've never done it, you'll never understand.
I was stationed at Det. 27, Site 23 Manzarali Station from Feb.
'64 to July '65. The only time I got to the US Embassy in Ankara
was on a weekend of picture taking. Although the recruiter did
tell me I would be working out of the embassy, wearing civilian
clothes, carrying an attaché case (cuffed to my wrist),
transporting top secret documents and all the other James Bond
bull. ha! ha! You have a nice day.
Always, Roger 'G"
Hi Roger, Thanks for communicating. I hope there are still enough copies of "Scotch and Holy Water" around so others can get it. It's a real gem. Yes, you have to have been there! Wish we'd overlapped in Turkey, just as I've wished about some others in the DOOLs. What characters! So far I've read mostly about Sinop--I'm working backwards, you see--but trust I'll get to a point where Site 23 comes through vividly and in living color. Incidentally, Elder RC (what does RC mean?) said that John O'Brien met his future wife, Betty Hastings, at a party that Jesse S. and Floyd H. had at their off-post apartment. That was wrong--the guys got that (illegal!) apartment long after John arrived. I remember because I was the guardian, for some time, of a HUGE pile of used sheets after John et al. moved out of the place in a big hurry. (Think Betty was too moral to agree to store them in her, Joyce, and Maggie's apartment.)--I got home from work one night & discovered that my cleaning lady, assuming that they were my sheets, had washed the entire pile in the bathtub! I don't think you missed much by not frequenting the U.S. Embassy. Although Ambassador Hare was a splendid, professorial sort of person. He had in fact been a teacher at Robert College in Istanbul--which I understand now goes by some other name. Well, I've been at this desk since 8:45 this morning, and my eyes are about to fall out of my head. But I did want to answer your message, because I won't be back at this magazine ("World Press Review") for two weeks. Thank goodness I don't work every day! Thanks again for writing, and you haven't bored me in the least. Best wishes, Connie Stallings (please don't call me anything but "Connie")
VAN ORDER, Leroy P (Roy) DOB: 27SE36 E4-E5 283 Det 4, 27SE60-MY61, (Toni), 315-633-0418, firstname.lastname@example.org and email@example.com. - Hi Elder, just reading Bob Alexander's recollections of the hill. Again some memories came back.. The contract firm that ran the mess hall and facilities was called Tumpane It was my understanding that the guy that started it was a retired Master Sgt and would come up on the hill on occasion with a different fox each time. He stayed at the BOQ. It seemed like we had a lot of Italians and Kurds working for him. This was in the 60-61 time frame.
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