DAYS OF OUR LIVES #75
Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:00:30 -0500
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RC Green - - -gH
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NEWLY
FOUND TURKEY VET's
TUSLOG Det 27 was organized on 01 October
1957. On 26 December 1957 Det 27's TD was 3 Officer's
and 15 EM. Maj Cambell, CPT William E. Loving, CPT Ancil D.
Adams and WO Alfred I Diehl were probably the first
officer's assigned to Det 27. Maj Cambell got there shortly
thereafter and was under the command of USASAEUR and Col.
Peterson in Frankfurt, Germany. This needs to be confirmed
by those who were there. Morale on the whole was
excellent and with the help of Maurice Cammack I've been able to
reconstruct the names of 13 of the 15 EM as
follows: Reynold L. Allgood; Maurice Cammack; Sgt Ronald
Crocheron-NCOIC of C/C; Robt D. Castle; Jerry W. Coker;
Thos J. Garrity; Harry W. Hoben; Johnny F. Kelly; Sgt George
Kerns-NCOIC of Maintenance; Lyle A. McSparren; Ronald R.
Rutherford; Thos O. Stephens and Sgt Woodard, The initial
location of the detachment was in the JUSMMAT Hqs complex. On 01
February 1958, the detachment moved from the JUSMMAT complex to
the new Hqs bldg located at 329A and 331A Ataturk Blvd across
from the American Embassy. It was known as Det 4-1. The
mission of Det 27 at that time was to monitor the construction of
Site 23, provide the initial authorization for the unit and
perform such other activities as were assigned by USASAEUR. The
EM asgnd to Det 27 at that time were housed in the USAF billets
in Ankara. However, approx 10% of the E4s and above without
dependants lived on the Ankara economy. Special services support,
medical support and messing facilities were provided by the USAF
in the city of Ankara, Turkey. Of the two buildings that were
occupied by Detachment 27 in its embryonic days, the building at
329A Ataturk Blvd contained the office of the CO, the Adjutant
(CPT Adams) and the Admin section. The balance of the buildings
were occupied by TUSLOG Det 14 (an element of the Army comm admin
network-possibly Det 66 was formed from Det 14, but not sure).
The building at 331A Ataturk Blvd contained the motor pool
dispatcher's office, the fiscal office, the supply office, unit
supply and a combined conference and training room. The motor
pool performed 1st echelon maintenance on the assigned vehicles.
All other maintenance was the responsibility of the TUMPANE
company which was under contract to TUSLOG.
CAMBELL, Chas K., Maj-SigC-CDR Det 27, 57-58, (Lillian-dec), 83 Lee Dr., Modoc, SC 29838, 864-333-2575. DOB: 1917. Name submitted by Maurice Cammack. I chatted with the retired Major on the 4th and he informed that he served only one (unhappy) Tour of Duty with ASA and that was as CDR of the Det 27 when there were no buildings at Site 23, and that they were digging the underground ducts for the cables from the antenna field to the planned opns bldg. He retired in 1960 as a Major.
CROCHERON, Ron, E6, NCOIC C/C, Det 27, 57-59, (Joyce), 1079 Galway Rd., Davidson, MD 21035, 301-261-7340, ronaldc@erols.com. DOB: 1935, Ron served in the ASA 1952-72 and retired as a Major. He remembers Det 27 as one of his fondest assignments and told me that the personnel there were all first class.
HOBEN, Harry W. Sgt E-5, 722, Det 27, 57-JA59, (Barbara), 3412 Cayton Rd., Westlake, LA 70669, 337-436-7042, no e-mail. Name submitted by Maurice Cammack.
SINOR,
Walter, SP4, F&AO, Det 27, 62-63,
(Betty), 3049 County Road 239, Valley
Head, AL 35989-4721, (256)635-6860, walter.sinor@stpaul.com. Ken Patterson
remembered Walt's name. From: Walter.Sinor@stpaul.com To: knpatterson@hotmail.com; Cc: ercgreen@yourinter.net. Ken,
Received e-mail from Elder RC Green and tried to call you
and left msg on answer machine. I can be reached during the
week at 877 453-5097 which is a toll free number. My home
number is 256 635-6860 however the answer machine for that
number is on the blink. Look forward to hearing from you!
[Walt told me that I was the 1st ex-ASA'er to contact him since
his discharge in 1963. He lost all of the Turkey photo's in
1974. He remembers having to pull guard duty because
someone broke or disturbed the bushes/trees that were
planted. Does anyone remember this incident? If so,
please send the data for inclusion in the DAYS OF OUR
LIVES.
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e-mail changes FM: GAMBLE, Buzz, 059, Det
27, JA66-JN67, (Linda), Bethel, ME Please check my address to bgamble@saturn.caps.maine.edu as this address
is just a small pocket emailer and will send and receive only a
page and deletes the rest. I also dug up more names and
addresses. thanks, FM: MAU, Norman Subject:
Re: DOOL's gH, Since my hotmail account is almost full,
could you please send the relays to maun@yahoo.com? Thanks,
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'n DAHS From: Maurice Cammack Cc: Jimbo Stephens Subject: Some
More Names of Old Det 27 Guys - Elder, appreciate the
telephone call last night. As I promised, here are some names of
Det 27 folks in the 57-59 time frame that I took off old
promotion orders. Also am including the names of the Six 722's
that were shipped into Ankara in Dec 57 from Hqs, ASAE in
Frankfurt. Frankfurt 722's: Reynold L. Allgood; Maurice E.
Cammack; Thomas J. Garrity; Harry W. Hoben; Johnny F. Kelly
and Thomas O. Stephens Other Names I have located: On 17
Jul 58, the Commander was CPT William E. Loving, QMC (Think he
was a Mortician who was recalled for Korea and decided to stay
in) On 10 Nov 58 the
Commander was MAJ Charles K. Cambell, SigC. On 10 Nov 58, I
was promoted to SGT, along with Johnny F. Kelly and Ronald R.
Rutherford. On the same orders, there were three promotions
to E-4; Robert D. Castle, Jerry W. Coker and Lyle A. McSparren. Other names I
recall: Comm Center OIC was CWO Alfred I. Diehl. Comm
Center NCOIC was SFC Ronald Crocheron. Comm Center Maint
NCOIC was SFC George Kerns. As I find more digging through
my files, will forward them on. Hope this helps some. If
Tom Stephens can think of others, he will forward them on, I am
sure. Best wishes and hope your July 4th is a good, safe one. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: John
Buttrick - SP5, 72B, Det 27, JA67-MR68, (Mary Ann), Phoenix, AZ, buttrick@superiorcourt.maricopa.gov It is
certainly not true that "Det 27 closed in Dec 67." I
was there from Jan 67 until March or April of 68 and was not the
last American to leave. The operational mission may have been, in
the main, transferred in 67, but much went on after that time.
Just thought you'd like to know.
I found information on
Judge John Buttrick on the Maricopa County webpage and include it
(edited) for other Det 27 Vet's who knew John at Manzarali: (The
buttrick attachment is John Buttrick). "- In what
appears to be a historical first, Libertarian John
Buttrick was named a judge of the Maricopa County Superior
Court in Arizona on 1 May 2001 by the state's Republican
governor, Jane Hull, beating 39 other contenders for the
position. This is believed to be the first time any
third-party member has ever been appointed to a judgeship in
Arizona and it may possibly be the first time a registered
Libertarian has been appointed to any judgeship anywhere in the
country. Following high school
graduation, Buttrick joined the United States Army
Security Agency (ASA); serving as a cryptographer in Turkey, the
Republic of Viet Nam and other locations around the world.
He received his undergraduate degree in philosophy from the
University of Denver in 1973 and and his law degree in 1976 from
Harvard Law School. After law school, he joined the law
firm of Brown & Bain P.A., where he became a partner in
1982. For the past 25 years, Buttrick has worked as an
attorney for Brown & Bain, a Phoenix law firm.
Specializing in antitrust, product liability, contract,
environmental, and patent litigation, and has represented
high-profile clients like IBM and Intel. John Buttrick is
well-known in Arizona for his political activity, including a run
for governor in 1994 and a campaign for state representative in
1998. His appointment is a major milestone for the
Libertarian Party and is a big step forward for the party's
credibility and influence. Keep in mind, the government is
composed of three branches: Legislative, executive, and
judicial. Libertarians have tended to seek legislative and
executive positions, but may forget that the judicial branch
wields just as much power. The Libertarian's predict that
Buttrick will be a pioneer for many more Libertarian judges in
the future. As a Superior Court judge, Buttrick, 54, has
jurisdiction over all civil matters where more than $10,000 is in
dispute, as well as felony criminal matters up to and including
capital offenses. Buttrick, a Harvard Law School
graduate, expects that the majority of his cases will
likely deal with civil litigation and that his libertarian
ideology will not influence his actions as a judge. It's
the job of lawyers to raise Constitutional questions and the
judge to rule on them. Buttrick said he will uphold
the legitimacy of jury nullification.. Jury nullification
is the legal doctrine that allows jurors to rule on the validity
of the law itself, as well as the facts in a case. For example,
jurors could vote to acquit someone charged with a medical
marijuana offense, even if he was technically guilty, to show
disapproval for what they saw as an unfair law. Buttrick
earned his appointment as judge the old-fashioned way: With
hard work and honesty. Many people thought
that Buttrick would have had a better shot
at getting appointed if he had switched his
registration to Republican or Independent, but he was
not willing to change his convictions whenever it
was professionally expedient. As you sow so shall you
reap," is Buttrick's philosophy. As Maricopa
County Superior Court judge, John Buttrick will serve until 2004.
If he wishes to continue serving after that, he will have to
stand for election for a four-year term. Until then, he is
looking forward to hearing legal arguments instead of making
them. "I wanted to take a step in a new direction, and now I
have that opportunity," he said. "I'm going to honor
the Constitution every chance I get." In addition to his
campaigns for public office, Buttrick was a member of the
Libertarian National Committee (1997-2000), and was the chair of
the LP National Platform Committee (1998 and 2000). Judge
Buttrick has been involved in community activities by supporting
the Phoenix Threatre, the Phoenix Symphony and the Phoenix
Library. He is a member of the American Bar Association and the
Mariopa County Bar Association.
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From:
Mike Findley Elder, Finally had a knowledgable
friend come over today and get this new 'puter
working. Haven't been doing much the last few months ...
other than ... after being divorced 14 years, I suddenly and
unexpectedly find myself w/an SO. I'm afraid that I've been
spending much of my time concentrating on her. Hope this
note finds you happy and in good health.
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From: Ken Patterson, SP4, F&AO, Det 27, 63-64, (Bertha), 300
Rutland Dr., Tupelo, MS 38804, 662-844-3925, knpatterson@hotmail.com> Have you located Walter
Sinor yet. My search turned up a Walter Sinor who is
the right age (born in 1942) in Valley Head, AL. I was his
replacement in the Accounting Office. He was there a few
weeks after I arrived. He taught me the Manzarai Station
method of accounting. I believe he was originally from the
Nashville, TN area. He was a classmate of country singer
Brenda Lee. He apparently runs in the over 55 division in
5K runs. He was shown to have been in the Blue Cross Blue
Shield Riverbend Run 5K in Chattanooga, TN in 2001.
Happy hunting.--KEN Walter Sinor, 3049 County Road 239
Valley Head, AL 35989-4721, (256)635-6860
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From: Ken Patterson, knpatterson@hotmail.com I want everyone to know right away that I
in no way was saying that the photographer(I still don't recall
his name--y'all think it was Jon Wood) was doing anything
wrong. He was an artist just as surely as some great
painter did nude studies and Georgia O'Keefe did her flowers,
which if you are familiar with Georgia O'Keefe's work represented
something totally different. You just have to stare at them
awhile to get the point. Thus, I was expressing admiration
of the photographer's talent and artistry. There is nothing
to be defended. Art is art. Vulgarity exists in the
minds of those who can't accept art for art's sake. When it
comes to the First Amendment I am pretty much of a liberal here
in the "hills" of Mississippi (less than 807 ft above
sea level at its highest point.) The highest spot in MS is
"Mt." Woodall at only 806 ft. Please rest assured
that nothing I said about the photographer should have been taken
as disparaging his memory. LATER--KEN
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From: Charles Mcclevish, E3,711,DET 27,63-64, HQS CO, S2 CLERK
cmcclev@earthlink.net> To: <winarski@cox.net> Cc: "ercgreen" <ercgreen@yourinter.net> STAN: I think I remember
you. I worked for Major Lindgren as a clerk, along
with Phil Kelly from 63-64. I think you were next
door. Jim Orr worked for you as a clerk. He and
I came to Det 27 on the same 707. Was Investigator
Schulz the agent who was interested in foreign cars (FIAT)
and was always designing them. I wonder if he ever
became an auto designer. I've spoken to Phil Kelly and
couple of times and the last time I spoke to Joe Lindgren, I
promised him I would visit him. He sounded great. He
still sounds the same and I'm sure he is still the same
wonderful person he was at Det 27. I recognized his
voice from the first few words he spoke. Thanks for clearing
up the frog story. I thought it was an
annual migration. You are right. They were the
thickest on the sidewalk from the mess to Hqs bldg. Do
you remember the story I told in an earlier message to Elder
about the Turk driver taking a van load of us across the
Ankara Airport landing strip from the civilian side to the
military side. I think it may have been you who asked
me to take the curse words out of the report, because
otherwise you would have to stamp it obscene?
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FROM: Greg Kearney,
SP5, 05H, Det 4-4, SE68-OC71, (Lonnie), Hesperia, CA., GPKEARNEY@aol.com
gH, have sent the two relay's #73 and #74. I
discovered that I have a group forwarding capability with my
server and can probably handle another 10 to 20 names very
easily. If you need to give me more names to forward, just let me
know. Have a great 4th of July.
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From: "Heese, Larry {Quaker}" <Larry_Heese@quakeroats.com> Subject: Up dated info HEESE,
Larry J E3-E5 058 Det 27, 60-62, (Jean), 7906 Wieneke Cir.,
Cedar Rapids, IA 52404, 319-396-4226, larry_heese@quakeroats.com
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From: John Bircher - Elder: Below please find
our new mailing address and temp phone number. Also, please
note the new email address is “us” and NOT .com. BIRCHER, John E III O2-O3 Det 27,
NO65-NO66, (Carol), 6001 Spinnaker Loop, Lady Lake, FL 32159,
352-603-0009, john@bircher.us Thanks! John E. Bircher III, President, Bircher³
Consulting International, Inc. 6001 Spinnaker Loop, Suite 250, Lady
Lake, FL 32159, Off: 352-603-0009, Home: 352-603-0009, email:
john@bircher.us ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Francis W. Boldway, Bcol6@aol.com Here is an update for your Master
roster: BOLDWAY, Francis W. (Wife Lois) 04 AGC, Det 27 66-67
(Left in early 68), 4302 Hollow Hill Dr., San Antonio, TX
78217-1718. 210-653-2542. Retired in Dec 1982
as Colonel, 06 (Wife & I good bowlers and dancers)
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From: JHollRamon@aol.com Elder, - My wife accidentally
deleted your voicemail today but tried to give me the gist of the
message. Thanks for the call. Unfortunately, I won't
be able to attend the reunion. My company just moved me to
a new job where everyone is working long hours. I'm just
hoping we take a break by Christmas. One would think we would be
in control of our own lives by this time. But I do like
what I'm doing so have no one to blame. Anyhow, take care.
Hope you get your email fixed. Thanks for the call.
Hope that everyone has a great time in Hershey, PA.
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From: Paul Aspinwall, 1LT, Supply, Det 4, 12JA65-22DE65,
Middleton, WI., asp@us.ibm.comElder, I am getting DOOLs from
Roger Glubka, and thanks to both of you. Elder, from Aug,
1964, to Dec, 1964, I was at Fort Benning and then
Fort Devens with a Lt Ron Hehn, who then headed for Det 27
and should have arrived about the time you were leaving. I
didn't see him on the roster and wondered if you had any
contact with him then or since. regards, Paul C
Aspinwall, Process Architect, IPD BPE Staff, Route 100, Som2
4J-15, 8-826-2505 (914-766), Fax 914-766-8250, MD 2426, Paul
Aspinwall/Somers or asp@us.ibm.com
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From: HOWARD C STEPHENS, SR., Det 27 12/60 through 09/62 To: rtilney@austin.rr.com ; richlynnt@aol.com ; tolbert9@aol.com ; jeemer@treuhaft.com ; A.
Thomas Ullmann ; usher00@earthlink.net ; jvandenb@uwm.edu ; vace@charter.net ; van918@netzero.net ; cvanrens@buckeye-express.com Good
Afternoon "ASA'ers": As mentioned in my last note to
each of you, Elder Green has asked that we help him out by
agreeing to fwd the Days Of Our Lives (DOOL) missives, to ten
(10) of our former ASA comrades. Hope you enjoy
reading these as much as I do. Goodness knows there is too
much "Spam" on the internet these days. If you
don't wish to receive these e-mails, please reply and let me know
and I assure you that you will receive nothing further from
me. Hope that you and yours are all having a great summer!
Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: norman
mau Again if you
need a relayer, I can try from here. Regards,
[Thanks. I'll be giving you ten emails soon for you to
relay the DOOL's]- - -gH
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From: Chuck Bergmann Elder - Here is a list of email
ADR's that do not work. Not sure why but they do not go
through. Maybe you have a better e-mail address for them. kbinns@adelphia.net; I called Ken Binns and he said
that his email ADR (cable modem) is still valid,
but is down a lot, like the Regas family is now (Majority
owners?) rcouv@jps.net;
-From: Lanny Couvillon To: ercgreen Subject: Re: IS YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS
STILL VALID? Mine is working and I do get and read your updates.
I will get personal info to you as well as any information on the
guys I hung around
with--Potts-Botta-Cummings-MacCartan-Nelson-Hunsaker-O'Brien
--etc..but I am getting your information and Bergmann's too. LC mfcomroe@onix.com - From: Michael
Comroe To:
ercgreen Subject: Re: IS YOUR EMAIL
ADDRESS STILL VALID? 10-4 on your e-mail. I am getting all
Chuck's messages as far as I know. My reservations are made and
you should get a big brown envelope in snail mail shortly. Mike
Comroe sandra@ttlc.net;
rcommack@direcpc.com; - should be: mcammack@direcpc.com pfebrey@hotmail.com;
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From: Gene Cram, CW2, OIC T/A, Det 27, 66-67, (Phyllis),
Dunnellon, FL., superchief3@msn.com Maybe you should give me
three more e-mail addresses--the following three keep coming back
as undeliverable --??? #75 1. lar58@net1plus.com Virgil Rearick promised to
send new ADR, but nil hrd to date 2. tommy.powell@encodasystems.com -- Still checking 3. wdrandand@papadocs.com -- Still checking
SEPTEMBER IS GETTING CLOSER AND I'M GETTING ANTSIER!!! REGARDS --
GENE
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From: John J. Nodorek Jr., SP4, 76P, Det 27 AP-NO67 &
Det 4-3 NO67-NO68, Albany, GA
johnjnodorek@isoa.net To: GPKEARNEY@aol.com, Cc: ercgreen@yourinter.netI received #73 & 74. As I am
new to the DOOL's, I am missing #1 to 65-68. No biggie tho.
I found #74 hard to read. I presume Elder Green put in the
background, but it was hard on my eyes. I had to copy
it and move it to a new page. Then it would become black on
white and become more readable. May I offer a thought: Move it to
a new page where hopefully it would lose the background and
become more readable. Also consider not send it as an
"attachment". I personally do not like attachments as
they can contain a virus. But then again, if your equipment
is like mine, I could not transfer any photo's that may be
in it. So I would probably have to send it along as an
"attachment" too. So you might not have a choice on
that part. Keep up the good work and keep the DOOL's
coming.
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From: Jones,
Ed To: Chuck Bergmann Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 3:39
AM Subject: RE: Master Roster Det 27, 4-4, 17, 53, 66, 83,
120 and 4 as of 28 June 2002 Thank you my entry is correct.. Herbert E. (Ed) Jones,
Senior Global Technical Support Manager, ESCO Corporation, (217) 477-7223, (217)
477-7213 (Fax), (503) 805-2180 (Cell)
hejones@escocorp.com; http://escocorp.com
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From: Daniel Schoppe, SP5, 32G, Det 27,
AP65-OC67, Marjorie), Leander. TX, mschoppe@onr.com. I will be attending the TUSLOG Det 27 and
4-4 Reunion and request that a NONsmoking room (King) be reserved
for me for 13-15 Sep 2002 @ $79 per day, per agreement with Elder
RC Green and Donna Centofanti and Alison English. Please
call me at 512-467-9355 for my credit card info. Please
advise of any other requirements. Daniel Schoppe
From: Paul J. Kuehl,
05D, E3-E5, Det 27, NO65-OC67, 630 Brule Rd., DePere, WI 54115,
PKuehl@compures.com. I was at Det 27 11/65 to 10/67.
TDY in Sinop for a few months in summer of '66. Returned to
States, Vint Hill Farms, from there to Ft Bragg in 2/68 and
to Nam with the 82nd. They couldn't convince me to
re-up so I returned in 7/68 and went back to school.
All seems so long ago !! Keep up the great work and take
care.
Paul J. Kuehl, Human Resources/Recruitment, Computech
Resources, Inc., P. O. Box 28320 Green Bay, WI
54324 920-336-1387/FAX 920-336-7728 Toll Free:
877-500-3330
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From: James Q. Nolan, CW4, A/S4, Det 27, JA64-JN66, (Rita),
Hopewell, VA jimmy1905@juno.com. I will be attending the TUSLOG Det 27
Reunion and desire a non-smoking room with a king size bed
for 13 & 1.4 Sep 2002. I understand that we have a
special rate of $79.00 per night. Please call me at (804)
541-1578 for credit card information. The best time to call would
be in the evening . Dear Elder, check for the. Sat meal
being dropped in the mail in the morning. I just
noticed your mailing address, Indiana, Pa. I'm somewhat
familiar with that place as I was raised in Greenburg,
Pa. Hope the responses for the Reunion is good.Regards, Jim
Nolan
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From: "James E
Beller" <jbeller@bellsouth.net> Subject: master roster det
27. Info listed correctly for me -jbeller@bellsouth.net. Thanks, Jim Beller
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From: Daniel
Drachman, SP4-SP5, 98GRU,
Det 27, MR63-JN64; dandrachman@online.ru Great Master Roster list guys!! Thank you. I
am so sorry that I cannot join you there in September!! I had a roommate in Turkey (in the barracks)
by the name of Mike Sorrell. One of my sadnesses for many
years is that I have never been able to find him since we were
there. At Presidio of Monterrey we also knew each
other. His parents had a bookstore for many years in
Baltimore?? Has anyone else had contact with him? He
was a quiet guy but a good friend to anyone who wanted to
sincerely be his friend. Is the Hughes listed the
Major Hughes who also helped Chaplin Devanney to coach us
basketball in Nov '63 to March '64? did not see Chaplin
Devanney either? If Skip Boone shows up -- say hello to him
from the Georgia guy who he used to battle at guard. And
John O'Brien played basketball at Univ. of Seattle -- any way to
check with them for him? My rank went from E-4 to E-5 while
there. Thank you for connecting all of us! Dan
Drachman (I had a good conversation with John Lampe with
your help!) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: IANNELLI, Dominic
(Dom), Det 17, 64-66, (Elaine-div), 750 N.Atlantic Ave.
#608 Cocoa Beach Fl. 32931 , 321-230-0652, dominic.iannelli@lmco.com Dominic A. Iannelli., LMEIS; Sr. Staff;
Lead., Pgm. Control & Planning., Orlando, Fl. 32825
Cell: (321) 230-0652., Cell Text Message 3212300652@mobile.att.net., Office: (407) 306-4737
Fax: (407) 306-3770
"
Planning is bringing the future into the present so you can do
something about it now." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------