From: "ercgreen" ercgreen@yourinter.net
Subject: DAYS OF OUR LIVES #111
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 06:34:26 -0400
ASA Turkey MAIL-call - PRESERVING
FORGOTTEN MEMORIES
I welcome articles, BIO's,
stories, etc and certainly hope that all ASA Turkey Vet's will
contribute and make the newsletter worthwhile. You can write
whatever message you would like, and it will show up right here
for you to share with the ASA Turkey group! I will respond to all
e-mails and will assist whenever needed, but reserve the right to
edit for content and clarity and welcome any imperfections that
may appear herein. It's obvious I
do not have all the answers - but the main thrust is to work
together. Those of us ex-ASA'ers who served during the COLD WAR
years (1945-1977) deserve to be remembered with the same honor
that has been bestowed upon other COLD WAR veterans and I feel
that the DOOL's provides an opportunity for all of us to promote
a bit of ASA's proud history while perpetuating our own. Thus, if
the DOOL is to gain in popularity - you - the readers must
embrace a host of new ideas and keep them coming to my in-box.
Stop procrastinating! Is it that it's not later yet? But by then,
who cares! The search for new ASA Turkey vet's is not easy! Thank you, Elder RC Green aka gH, ercgreen@yourinter.net.
THE 2003 ASA TURKEY REUNION
THE 2003 ASA TURKEY REUNION WILL
BE HELD AT SEVEN SPRINGS, PENNSYLVANIA ON LABOR DAY WEEK-END,
29-31 AUGUST 2003. The 7 SPRINGS resort is near Champion,
Pennsylvania in the beautiful Laurel Highlands. The resort is
easily accessible from either the Donegal or Somerset exits of
the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
What other things should I know?
1. I have 70 rooms blocked off for
the ASA Turkey reunion. The cost per room is $85.00 + tax for
each room.
2. For reservations call
1-800-452-2223 or 1-866-437-1300.
3. Inform the receptionist that
you are with the ASA Turkey reunion group
4. Request a room on the 6th floor
or above that faces the ski slopes. Each room has a balcony and
the view is breathtaking!
5. See DOOL #100 or http://dool-1.tripod.com for additional information.
TAPS
MINARSICH, Donald G., E5, Det 27,
65-66, DOB: 24 February 1944 DOD: May 1982, SSN 478-50-4203
issued Iowa. DOES ANYONE REMEMBER DON MINARSICH? If so, please
send that info to me.
MAIL-CALL
ABRIALS, Thomas E., Det 4 &
4-1, OC57-OC58, 1901 Somersby Ln., VA Beach, VA 23456
757-427-3016, tabrials@cox.net Ops! Seems a revision is in line! Sinope-57-58 and
then on to Ankara for several months. Basically, I was a duty guy
or supply type that did most of the buying of supplies for the
site in Sinope and later on in Ankara. Had the honor of being the
first jerk to drive an Air Force (loaned) tractor trailer rig
over the mountains-by passing Samsun and going directly to the
site. Myself and another guy hauled in huge amounts of frozen
food stuff and even fuel for the site. Left Sinope and went to
the PI (8609) and ended up going to Electronic Warfare School at
Ft. Monmouth. At Ft. Devens, got my Warrant Officer appointment
and spent several tours in great places like Viet Nam, Korea and
Germany. Retired from the Army in 1976 as a CW3. Tom 'Muzzle
Loading" Abrials.
ARMSTRONG, Bob, (Mitch &
ATATURK), 059, E5, Det 27, MY60-JN62, (Dorothy Louise), 1007
Colony Dr., New Bern, NC 28562, 252-637-2525, armstrondsl@earthlink.net. Bob is 62 and remembers his Tour of Duty
in Turkey like it was yesterday. He was the NM supervisor on his
trick and did a LOT of hunting for wild boar in Turkey instead of
beer drinking like his friend Harold Probert did. Has promised to
send his BIO, photo's and tentative plans are to get together
with Harold Probert and Charlie Kindermann and for them to attend
the 2003 Hershey reunion. [Bob and Dot attended]
BERNSTEIN, Raymond S., E7, Det
27,65-66, Manassas, VA 20111, raysbern4@juno.com
Request you remove my address from your e-mailing. Your area of
interest and subjects involved appear to be in a different time
from mine. Though I spent time in Turkey I only recognize about 4
of the people and not even sure if they were in Turkey or another
assignment i.e. Cram, Cruddas,
Vannoy. Thanks for including me but.......Ray Bernstein
BOUFFARD, Gil A.,
DOB: 4FE41, RA11360494, E5-E6, Det 4, 66-67/72-73, 1155 West
Center Street #52 Manteca CA 95337, 209-824-6757, gbouffard@jps.net. - Moving from my former abode (split the
blanket), to my new apartment found a couple of boxes I hadn't
seen in awhile. The attached certificate was given me for working
on a site briefing that was going to be given by Colonel Arena.
Unlike today's PowerPoint Rangers, we didn't have any digital
assistance. We had to use anything we could physically get our
hands on. Laying out letters on green felt and laying out
illustrations so that they could be shot with a hand held 35mm
camera was a heck of a challenge. If I had to do it today, I
would probably have it done in a couple of hours
CAMPBELL, George D., DOB: 22JL38, RA18613544, E3-E4, 058, Det 4,
SE61-JL62, (Sharon), 2529 S. 111th East Ave., Tulsa, OK 74129,
918-622-4296, geocamp999@cox.net. My introduction to my Tour of Duty on the 'hill'
was from the back of a 2 and 1/2 ton truck that took us about 12
hours to get from Ankara. I lived in a Jamesway hut for a week or
so and then was moved into a wooden barracks that had a tile
roof. I've read about the demise of a Turk soldier in May or June
of 1961 and don't have any new revelations. I was told that a MP
and a Turk guard were struggling to get control of a M2 Carbine
and it went off, killing the Turk. Now I learn what actually
happened. The post was allowed into the town of Sinop about the
time I got there and everyone was cautious as to the way they
acted. Even the Turks. Upon being discharged I went to work for
McDonald-Douglass where I stayed for 30 years and retired in
1994.
COMROE, Mike, E4, 059, Det 27,
61-62, (Jane), 205 Pinetown Rd., Audubon, PA 19403,610-666-7402, pennstateblue@enter.net [edited]gH: I have drafted a letter to the
Coast Guard Commander at TRRS regarding holding the 2004 ASA
Turkey there, but have not mailed it yet. Because of the world
situation, I may wait before sending it as the CO probably has a
lot more on his mind than a bunch of us Army guys running all
over his post trampling the corn and stepping on the meadow
muffins. Regards, Mike
CREWS, Larry, (Chuck), DOB: 4JL40,
RA14800680, E3, 711 Distr Ctr, Det 27, MR63-AU64, (Frances), PO
Box 37, Titus, AL 36080, 334-514-1126, fcrews0143@aol.com, I called Larry Crews on 28 March 2003.
Larry enlisted in Montgomery, Alabama and while waiting in the
reception center overheard another recruit talking about joining
a unit that wore civiliam clothing. That sounded good and after
taking the series of tests was told that he qualified for the ASA
and that after AIT would be sent overseas. He accepted, took
basic training and AIT at Fort Jackson, South Carolina and then
on to Det 27 in Turkey.
CUSTER, Jim DOB: 11SE48 RA11889074
E4-E5 72B Det 4, MY71-MY72, (Christine), 432 N. Neuman Pl.,
Chandler, AZ 85225 480-857-2938, ccandc3@cox.net (cable). I am a native of Pennsylvania and
grew up in the area that gained the attention of all Americans
with the crash of Flight 93 on 9/11, not too far from my boyhood
homestead. Also the date 9/11 is a date well remembered by me as
that is my birthdate. Another item that gained everyone's
attention was that of the 9 trapped miners in Somerset County. My
younger brother, Doug Custer - a coal miner for 31 years, was a
Foreman in the Quecreek mine when the other crew cut into
previously mined out areas of that mine. One of the trapped
miner's immediately warned the others by walkie-talkie that they
had cut into OLD WORKINGS and for everyone to get OUT out of the
mine as they had just cut through and the mine would soon be
flooded. Doug got his 7 man crew safely out of the mine and was
interviewed serveral times on TV. also I graduated from the
Stoney Creek/Shanksville High School and then enlisted in the
ASA. [Jim will try and make the reunion and hopefully he will
bring his coal miner brother with him who will give us a up close
and personal report of the trapped miners].
DEAN, David H., 05H, Det 4, 66-67,
4418 Rushing Rd., Dallas, TX 75287 972-713-0350, dhdean@swbell.net Merhaba, My initial
experiences in Turkey were almost comical. I was an inexperienced
18 year old when I arrived in Istanbul. I found the crashed
planes along the grass at the airport disturbing. I found the
guards with machine guns at every 100 foot interval disturbing. I
found the habit of sprinkling water on me as I left the rest room
unusual. These were my first impressions of Turkey. My almost
year in Sinop seemed uneventful at the time, but in reflection,
we had a civilian workers strike that lasted for a month, we had
an over flight by a couple of MIGs, we saw a Russian
Instrumentation ship in the Black Sea, just off the coast for a
couple of days, we found a dead guy in a wet suit on the beach,
one of our guys was whisked out of the country for getting in a
hassle with the local mayor's bodyguards, and one of our own fell
to his death at the end of the peninsula. Maybe it wasn't too
boring. The high points to me was the work and the information I
had access to. It was frightening and fulfilling. Thanks, David http://home.swbell.net/dhdean
DesRUISSEAUX, Roy, DOB: 9SE41,
RA13668334, E3, MP, Det 27, JN61-AU62, (Josie),176 Springton Rd
Upper Darby, PA 19802, 610-622-3343, desrx2@comcast.net http://www.stormpages.com/robo/nudet27.htm is his Manzarali website - [edited] Elder:
I went up to your website of DOOL's. I saw 3 that aren't there.
I've saved most since about 37 or so. It appears as though 58
& 61 may never have existed as I don't have them either but I
do have #44. I'll forward a copy to Bill Simons to post with the
others. Still not sure if I'll make the next reunion though it
does seem doable. I have a three day weekend that coincides with
the reunion. However, Josie's mother, two sisters and a niece are
coming in August (I think), so it's gonna be crazy around here
also still house hunting. Keep up the good work. You are the guy
that has kept this going so well.
ELSBERRY, George P., (Joe),
RA14758836, E3-E5, 054.20, Det 27, FE63-OC64, (Darby Ann), 2228
Military Rd., Columbus, MS 39705, 662-327-4300, gpe42@cableone.net. Please change address to gpe42@cableone.net. We were just a little north of this war
in 1963 and 4. Darby and I did a cruise from Rome to Istanbul in
2001 and felt real safe. We now feel real safe on our little lake
in Mississippi.
FITZGERALD, Timothy P 98J Det 4,
FE67-JA68, (Coby), 10843 El Nopal Santee, CA 92071, 619-448-1285,
tfitzgerald@mindspring.com - Thanks for your email, was stationed at Bankhead
Sinop, 98J Feb 67 - Jan 68. Followed onward to Chitose for two
more years. Glad to see someone is tracking the old sites. Please
add my name to your logs and I will endeavor to keep in touch. As
you can see, I still am supporting the troops......... Regards,
Timothy P. Fitzgerald, SPAWAR Systems Center (SSC-SD), Code 2821,
53245 Millimeter St. Rm.2., San Diego, CA 92152, Email: fitz@spawar.navy.mil; Other Accounts: fitz@spawar.navy.smil.mil; fitz@spawar.navy.ic.gov
GLUBKA, Roger A., (Butch), DOB:
19MY44, E1-E3-E1, 72B, Det 27, FE64-JL65, (CW3 Michelle), PSC
303, BX 25 APO AP 96204-0025 (Korea), glubkar@kornet.net, SFC, USA(Ret) - To my friends and family,
This email is going out on behalf of my sister who lost her
husband in February 2003. He was a trucker and now she needs to
sell his rig. I can vouch for its condition and appearance. He
took pride in it and as soon as she scans a photo of it I will
send it to anyone who is interested. Neither one of us know that
much about the resale of these big rigs, so any input would be
greatly appreciated.
99 FREIGHTLINER CONVENTIONAL
MODEL NO:FLD120064ST
70" RAISED ROOF SLEEPERCAB
DETROIT 12.7 60S 430/500HP
JAKE BRAKE
FULLER RTLD 16713A TRANSMISSION
MERITOR FF-981 @ 12,000#FRONT AXLE
MERITOR RT-40-145 @ 40,000#REAR AXLE
FREIGHTLINER 40,000# AIR SUSPENSION
SYNTHENTIC LUBE TRANSMISSION REAR AXLE
ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM
244"WHEELBASE
HOLLAND FW35 18.4 AIR SLIDE 5TH WHEEL
3.58 REAR AXLE RATIO
DUAL 100 GALLON FUEL TANKS
6 FREIGHTLINER ALUMINUM LOGO WHEELS
NORCOLD REFRIGERATOR
RADIO & CB
NEW CHAINS
5YR./750,000 EXTENDED COVERAGE AXLES
5YR/500,000 EXTENDED COVERAGE TRANSMISSION
1-21-03=ELECTRICAL SYSTEM CHECK
2-3-03=R & R HEAD & HEAD GASKET REPLACED
ONE OWNER
ALL PAPERWORK
$50,000.00
HILBURN, Herbert Det 27, 61-62, herberthil@wmconnect.com [edited - Herbert Hilburn visited Roy
DesRuisseaux's Det 27 website (http://stormpages.com/robo/nudet27.htm) and emailed him the follow- ing message:
[edited] "MY NAME IS HERBERT HILBURN AND I WAS AT DET 27,
Manzarali Station - 61-62. I WAS DISCHARGED ON 5 AUGUST 1962. I
FLEW TO ISTANBUL, THEN TO FRANKFORT FOR A THREE DAY LAYOVER, SAME
AS WHEN I WENT OVER. I REMEMBER THE GUY SELLING THE REFIG'S BUT I
CAN'T REMEMBER THE GUY WITH THE COAT ON. I HEARD ABOUT A PLANE
BUT GOING TO SINOP BUT NEVER SAW IT. I RECALL THE GUY THAT WAS
SENT DOWN FROM SINOP THAT ALMOST STARTED A WAR. HE TOLD ME ABOUT
IT. DO YOU REMEMBER MY BUDDY BILL HARRIS? HE WAS ALWAYS GAMBLING.
DO YOU REMEMBER BOBBY BYLER? HE CLIMBED THE ANTENNA'S. HE WAS MY
ROOM MATE. IT SURE CHANGED AFTER THEY STARTED BUILDING THE WALL
IN BERLIN THE POPULATION THERE SHOT UP DRAMATICALLY. FROM TWO TO
A ROOM TO FOUR.
HOPKINS, Jim, DOB: 28OC39,
RA15659763, E2-E5, 058, Det 27, SE62-JL64, (Mary Beth), 679 S
Alkire St., Lakewood, CO., 80228, 303-986-7870, no email. Jim is
a native of Poland, Ohio. Some of his Manzarali friends were
Brian Hennessey, Dave Schultz from Salt Lake City then, Roger
Squire from Connecticut and Rod Tully from New York City.
HUNT, Carlos E DOB 21MY37 E3-E4
058 Det 4, MR58-MR59, (Frankie), 10215 Hwy 79e, Henderson, TX
75652, 903-889-2391, cehunt79@aol.com - Merhaba, Frankie and I have made our reservations
at 7 Springs. We are excited about the reunion.
LOVETT, Eric, E7, MP, Det 4,
SE83-OC84, Box 3050 Chinle, AZ, 86503, eric.lovett@chinle.ihs.gov. Iyi Gunler, Abey, After reading through a
lot of the memoirs in the back issues of DAYS OF OUR LIVES, I
feel like a real late-comer since I was at the USAFS Sinop (then
INSCOM) from September '83 to October '84. I was the MP Station
Commander there and retired in 1988 as a MSG at the MP School
when it was still at Fort McClellan. Without a doubt one of the
most interesting and challenging assignments of my career and I
still yearn to return to Sinop and see all my Turkish friends.
After duty hours I was one of the last managers of the
Sportsman's Club before it was dissolved in favor of the new
"enlisted club" (can't remember the name). The
Sportsman's Club originally started as a Rod and Gun Club but by
the time I was there we were reduced to selling Diogenes Station
logo items (hats, jackets, Zippos, etc), darts, hunting knives,
and we maintained a well stocked bar of beer and wine and chili
of dubious quality. Anyway, we celebrated a great many promotions
at the club with great gusto, zeal, and abandon. The years have
gone by and now I'm a social worker (MSW) for the Navajo Indians
in northeast Arizona -- yet another isolated hardship tour! I've
been trying to locate Patrick McEvoy, originally from Michigan
and the leader our SWAT team, and Dave Myers (Meyers?), from
Colorado and who served twice on the hill, once as my operations
sergeant. Both are great guys and I miss them. Suggestion: How
about a searchable data base with everyone's names in roster
form???
Sorry, can't make the 2003
reunion; maybe later. Eric Lovett, MSG, USA (Ret)
MYERS, Ralph DOB: OC38, S3, Det 4,
15JN72-25MY73, (Patti), 6 Hammond Ln., Fredericksburg, VA 22407,
540-898-4390, ralphmyers@bigplanet.com [edited] Hello Elder and Merhaba to you all. We
just returned from a Caribbean cruise during which I had a chance
to practice my limited Turkish. Our waiter was from Istanbul. He
was really pleased when I had the whole table give him a rousing
Cok Gazelle (sp?) at the end of the final dinner. I went to your
website and found the 2001 Memory document to be very
interesting. I was the Operations Officer at TUSLOG Det 4 in
Sinop in 1972-73, and did go down to Det 4-4 at Karamursel to
visit the ASA detachment there on my quarterly IG visits. I
started reading the DOOLs chronologically starting with the
latest, and I did find lots of former Sinopers. I found some
former Sinopers who attended the 2002 ASA Turkey reunion in DOOL
#88, but didn't recognize any of them, probably because they were
all there long before me. It's funny, but when I saw the first
Det 4'er in that reunion group, the SP3 grade of Vern Kallenborn
took me aback. I think you go back further than I do so the SP3
was probably not a misprint, and maybe the Army had SP3's back
then in the 50's. Although I didn't see any that were there when
I was, I'm now sure there probably is, and am looking forward to
reading the other DOOLs. What I have read brings back a lot of
good memories. I still stay in touch with some former Sinopers,
so I will pass your email on to them. Col Chet Crowell and his
first wife, Georgia, are divorced. He is married to a Medical
Doctor and lives in Canada. We stay in regular touch with Georgia
Crowell. She moved a couple of years ago from Myrtle Beach, SC to
Hereford, AZ, right near Sierra Vista (Ft. Huachuca). Colonel
Darrell Arena's mind is still sharp as a tack! Fortunately, I
continue to enjoy good health although am on cholesterol lowering
and blood pressure medications. I'm working out every day, and
have lost 20 pounds over the past three months through dieting.
Gained three pounds of that back though on the cruise. Here's my
take regarding the things Akers said. I am unaware of any
drug/racial problems at Sinop while I was there. We had excellent
relations with the comm unit stationed there and I don't recall
their CO, a captain whose name I don't remember, ever bringing it
up. We did have an incident where a member of the Turkish guard
force stole a radio out of the BOQ and after he was found missing
from the muster conducted immediately after, he was located,
tried in a court martial, found guilty and taken to prison within
24 hours. Talk about swift justice in the Turkish Army! Keeping
this going must be a Herculean effort on your part. Thanks.
POPE, Calvin, DOB: 8JN41, RA14748362, E4,
058/059, Det 27, 62-65, (Elaine), PO Box 424, Bay Minette, AL.,
36507, 251-580-0763, popecpep@cs.com Mbr & coach of MSC Championship Flag Football Team
in 64 - Had a phone call from
ole Turkish buddy that I had forgot about named John M. Hall.
Told him about the reunion's. He would like for you to fill him
on things that are going on pertaining to Turkey. He said he had
some pictures. He lives in Michigan. e-mail is johnmhall@ameritech.net. We would like to attend the 2003 reunion,
but am having both knees replaced soon. Thanks Pope
RAY, Russ DOB: 1938 03-04 9640 Det
4, AP68-AP69, 9832 Ashford Ave., Westminster, CA 92683,
714-775-6973, ruff1998@aol.com. This is up-dated information.
RIEDY, Richard D., DOB: 5OC36,
RA19549080, E-4, 965.1676 (Turk Interpreter), Det 4, OC57-MR59,
260 Gensen Drive SW., Los Lunas, NM 87031, 505-865-3874, burada@earthlink.net [edited - I believe that Richard Riedy was
the first school trained Turkish linguist assigned to Sinop and
his input has been most valuable in my attempt to re-construct
the early days on the hill called SINOP. His remarks pertain to a
photo taken by Fred Schwartz in 1959 at the front entrance to the
ASA outpost] - Elder Green, I left Det 4 in March 1959 and at
that time to the best of my memory and looking at some of my
photos, I can't recall the buildings, etc in Schwartz excellent
photo that you attached. I remember just a one-man guard box on
the right side of the road as you drove up the hill. Also, during
my time at Det 4 we did not have MP's nor did we have a
dispensary. Best regards, Richard Riedy [Can anyone remember when
Army trained and ASA cleared MP's were assigned to Det 4? Also -
Who was the first to serve as medical personnel at Det 4, either
medic or a doctor]
RINEHOLD, John W E5 05DDet 4,
66-67, P.O. Box 1495, Philomath, OR 97370, 541-929-3374, rinehold@msn.com. - Hanging in the bedroom is the deep
green/turquoise bathrobe I bought in Sinop so long ago. It is
still holding its color and wearing very nicely. I wish I could
buy another. The meerschaum pipe vanished at the time of my
uncle's death. I had given it to him. The alexandrite ring turned
my finger green and the puzzle ring remains a mystery, but alas
it is also long gone. The alabaster vases I gave my mother are
now in my living room, resting on the piano. Mother is gone, but
the vases remain.My son (USAF) is at Qatar. Every man is a moon
and has a dark side which he never shows to anybody. Samuel
Clemens
RODRIGUES, Charlie E4 Supply Det 4, 59-60,
(Patricia), 210 Benham Ave., Syracuse, NY 13219, 315-487-1195, pcrodrigues@webtv.net IMPORTANT BULLETIN.......To all my new found Sinop and
ASA Vets....If
you don't have a favorite team in the Finals.....Goooo
SU......and.....Vince....If you see any tickets floating around
the Big Easy, don't forget your Ole Buddy. Charlie R PS My
prediction...SU and Marquette in Final Two....GO SU. [Charlie -
Good prediction, even though Syracuse finished 2nd to PITT in the
BIG EAST!- - -gH]
SANDVOLD, Jay C DOB: 29JN45 RA18662520 E3-E4 059 Det 27,
OC64-SE66, 217 Hill St., Kemper, TX 76539, 512-932-2272, jsgunco@dashlink.com. Was trained at Devens as a Non-Morse
Intercept Operator. Worked in the 059 section for 9 months at
Manzarali, then the remainder as a wrapper in the C/C where he
was awarded the 982 MOS. Linda, his first wife was with Jay in
Ankara. Retired as a Master Sergeant E8 from the Army in August
1985 with 22 years active duty. Owns a gun shop in Kemper, TX.
One of his customers was stationed at Sinop.