From: "ercgreen" firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: DAYS OF OUR LIVES #111
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 06:34:26 -0400
ASA Turkey MAIL-call - PRESERVING FORGOTTEN MEMORIES
I welcome articles, BIO's, stories, etc and certainly hope that all ASA Turkey Vet's will contribute and make the newsletter worthwhile. You can write whatever message you would like, and it will show up right here for you to share with the ASA Turkey group! I will respond to all e-mails and will assist whenever needed, but reserve the right to edit for content and clarity and welcome any imperfections that may appear herein. It's obvious I do not have all the answers - but the main thrust is to work together. Those of us ex-ASA'ers who served during the COLD WAR years (1945-1977) deserve to be remembered with the same honor that has been bestowed upon other COLD WAR veterans and I feel that the DOOL's provides an opportunity for all of us to promote a bit of ASA's proud history while perpetuating our own. Thus, if the DOOL is to gain in popularity - you - the readers must embrace a host of new ideas and keep them coming to my in-box. Stop procrastinating! Is it that it's not later yet? But by then, who cares! The search for new ASA Turkey vet's is not easy! Thank you, Elder RC Green aka gH, email@example.com.
THE 2003 ASA TURKEY REUNION
THE 2003 ASA TURKEY REUNION WILL BE HELD AT SEVEN SPRINGS, PENNSYLVANIA ON LABOR DAY WEEK-END, 29-31 AUGUST 2003. The 7 SPRINGS resort is near Champion, Pennsylvania in the beautiful Laurel Highlands. The resort is easily accessible from either the Donegal or Somerset exits of the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
What other things should I know?
1. I have 70 rooms blocked off for the ASA Turkey reunion. The cost per room is $85.00 + tax for each room.
2. For reservations call 1-800-452-2223 or 1-866-437-1300.
3. Inform the receptionist that you are with the ASA Turkey reunion group
4. Request a room on the 6th floor or above that faces the ski slopes. Each room has a balcony and the view is breathtaking!
5. See DOOL #100 or http://dool-1.tripod.com for additional information.
MINARSICH, Donald G., E5, Det 27, 65-66, DOB: 24 February 1944 DOD: May 1982, SSN 478-50-4203 issued Iowa. DOES ANYONE REMEMBER DON MINARSICH? If so, please send that info to me.
ABRIALS, Thomas E., Det 4 & 4-1, OC57-OC58, 1901 Somersby Ln., VA Beach, VA 23456 757-427-3016, firstname.lastname@example.org Ops! Seems a revision is in line! Sinope-57-58 and then on to Ankara for several months. Basically, I was a duty guy or supply type that did most of the buying of supplies for the site in Sinope and later on in Ankara. Had the honor of being the first jerk to drive an Air Force (loaned) tractor trailer rig over the mountains-by passing Samsun and going directly to the site. Myself and another guy hauled in huge amounts of frozen food stuff and even fuel for the site. Left Sinope and went to the PI (8609) and ended up going to Electronic Warfare School at Ft. Monmouth. At Ft. Devens, got my Warrant Officer appointment and spent several tours in great places like Viet Nam, Korea and Germany. Retired from the Army in 1976 as a CW3. Tom 'Muzzle Loading" Abrials.
ARMSTRONG, Bob, (Mitch & ATATURK), 059, E5, Det 27, MY60-JN62, (Dorothy Louise), 1007 Colony Dr., New Bern, NC 28562, 252-637-2525, email@example.com. Bob is 62 and remembers his Tour of Duty in Turkey like it was yesterday. He was the NM supervisor on his trick and did a LOT of hunting for wild boar in Turkey instead of beer drinking like his friend Harold Probert did. Has promised to send his BIO, photo's and tentative plans are to get together with Harold Probert and Charlie Kindermann and for them to attend the 2003 Hershey reunion. [Bob and Dot attended]
BERNSTEIN, Raymond S., E7, Det
27,65-66, Manassas, VA 20111, firstname.lastname@example.org
Request you remove my address from your e-mailing. Your area of interest and subjects involved appear to be in a different time from mine. Though I spent time in Turkey I only recognize about 4 of the people and not even sure if they were in Turkey or another assignment i.e. Cram, Cruddas,
Vannoy. Thanks for including me but.......Ray Bernstein
BOUFFARD, Gil A.,
DOB: 4FE41, RA11360494, E5-E6, Det 4, 66-67/72-73, 1155 West
Center Street #52 Manteca CA 95337, 209-824-6757, email@example.com. - Moving from my former abode (split the
blanket), to my new apartment found a couple of boxes I hadn't
seen in awhile. The attached certificate was given me for working
on a site briefing that was going to be given by Colonel Arena.
Unlike today's PowerPoint Rangers, we didn't have any digital
assistance. We had to use anything we could physically get our
hands on. Laying out letters on green felt and laying out
illustrations so that they could be shot with a hand held 35mm
camera was a heck of a challenge. If I had to do it today, I
would probably have it done in a couple of hours
CAMPBELL, George D., DOB: 22JL38, RA18613544, E3-E4, 058, Det 4, SE61-JL62, (Sharon), 2529 S. 111th East Ave., Tulsa, OK 74129, 918-622-4296, firstname.lastname@example.org. My introduction to my Tour of Duty on the 'hill' was from the back of a 2 and 1/2 ton truck that took us about 12 hours to get from Ankara. I lived in a Jamesway hut for a week or so and then was moved into a wooden barracks that had a tile roof. I've read about the demise of a Turk soldier in May or June of 1961 and don't have any new revelations. I was told that a MP and a Turk guard were struggling to get control of a M2 Carbine and it went off, killing the Turk. Now I learn what actually happened. The post was allowed into the town of Sinop about the time I got there and everyone was cautious as to the way they acted. Even the Turks. Upon being discharged I went to work for McDonald-Douglass where I stayed for 30 years and retired in 1994.
COMROE, Mike, E4, 059, Det 27, 61-62, (Jane), 205 Pinetown Rd., Audubon, PA 19403,610-666-7402, email@example.com [edited]gH: I have drafted a letter to the Coast Guard Commander at TRRS regarding holding the 2004 ASA Turkey there, but have not mailed it yet. Because of the world situation, I may wait before sending it as the CO probably has a lot more on his mind than a bunch of us Army guys running all over his post trampling the corn and stepping on the meadow muffins. Regards, Mike
CREWS, Larry, (Chuck), DOB: 4JL40, RA14800680, E3, 711 Distr Ctr, Det 27, MR63-AU64, (Frances), PO Box 37, Titus, AL 36080, 334-514-1126, firstname.lastname@example.org, I called Larry Crews on 28 March 2003. Larry enlisted in Montgomery, Alabama and while waiting in the reception center overheard another recruit talking about joining a unit that wore civiliam clothing. That sounded good and after taking the series of tests was told that he qualified for the ASA and that after AIT would be sent overseas. He accepted, took basic training and AIT at Fort Jackson, South Carolina and then on to Det 27 in Turkey.
CUSTER, Jim DOB: 11SE48 RA11889074 E4-E5 72B Det 4, MY71-MY72, (Christine), 432 N. Neuman Pl., Chandler, AZ 85225 480-857-2938, email@example.com (cable). I am a native of Pennsylvania and grew up in the area that gained the attention of all Americans with the crash of Flight 93 on 9/11, not too far from my boyhood homestead. Also the date 9/11 is a date well remembered by me as that is my birthdate. Another item that gained everyone's attention was that of the 9 trapped miners in Somerset County. My younger brother, Doug Custer - a coal miner for 31 years, was a Foreman in the Quecreek mine when the other crew cut into previously mined out areas of that mine. One of the trapped miner's immediately warned the others by walkie-talkie that they had cut into OLD WORKINGS and for everyone to get OUT out of the mine as they had just cut through and the mine would soon be flooded. Doug got his 7 man crew safely out of the mine and was interviewed serveral times on TV. also I graduated from the Stoney Creek/Shanksville High School and then enlisted in the ASA. [Jim will try and make the reunion and hopefully he will bring his coal miner brother with him who will give us a up close and personal report of the trapped miners].
DEAN, David H., 05H, Det 4, 66-67, 4418 Rushing Rd., Dallas, TX 75287 972-713-0350, firstname.lastname@example.org Merhaba, My initial experiences in Turkey were almost comical. I was an inexperienced 18 year old when I arrived in Istanbul. I found the crashed planes along the grass at the airport disturbing. I found the guards with machine guns at every 100 foot interval disturbing. I found the habit of sprinkling water on me as I left the rest room unusual. These were my first impressions of Turkey. My almost year in Sinop seemed uneventful at the time, but in reflection, we had a civilian workers strike that lasted for a month, we had an over flight by a couple of MIGs, we saw a Russian Instrumentation ship in the Black Sea, just off the coast for a couple of days, we found a dead guy in a wet suit on the beach, one of our guys was whisked out of the country for getting in a hassle with the local mayor's bodyguards, and one of our own fell to his death at the end of the peninsula. Maybe it wasn't too boring. The high points to me was the work and the information I had access to. It was frightening and fulfilling. Thanks, David http://home.swbell.net/dhdean
DesRUISSEAUX, Roy, DOB: 9SE41, RA13668334, E3, MP, Det 27, JN61-AU62, (Josie),176 Springton Rd Upper Darby, PA 19802, 610-622-3343, email@example.com http://www.stormpages.com/robo/nudet27.htm is his Manzarali website - [edited] Elder: I went up to your website of DOOL's. I saw 3 that aren't there. I've saved most since about 37 or so. It appears as though 58 & 61 may never have existed as I don't have them either but I do have #44. I'll forward a copy to Bill Simons to post with the others. Still not sure if I'll make the next reunion though it does seem doable. I have a three day weekend that coincides with the reunion. However, Josie's mother, two sisters and a niece are coming in August (I think), so it's gonna be crazy around here also still house hunting. Keep up the good work. You are the guy that has kept this going so well.
ELSBERRY, George P., (Joe), RA14758836, E3-E5, 054.20, Det 27, FE63-OC64, (Darby Ann), 2228 Military Rd., Columbus, MS 39705, 662-327-4300, firstname.lastname@example.org. Please change address to email@example.com. We were just a little north of this war in 1963 and 4. Darby and I did a cruise from Rome to Istanbul in 2001 and felt real safe. We now feel real safe on our little lake in Mississippi.
FITZGERALD, Timothy P 98J Det 4, FE67-JA68, (Coby), 10843 El Nopal Santee, CA 92071, 619-448-1285, firstname.lastname@example.org - Thanks for your email, was stationed at Bankhead Sinop, 98J Feb 67 - Jan 68. Followed onward to Chitose for two more years. Glad to see someone is tracking the old sites. Please add my name to your logs and I will endeavor to keep in touch. As you can see, I still am supporting the troops......... Regards, Timothy P. Fitzgerald, SPAWAR Systems Center (SSC-SD), Code 2821, 53245 Millimeter St. Rm.2., San Diego, CA 92152, Email: email@example.com; Other Accounts: firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com
GLUBKA, Roger A., (Butch), DOB: 19MY44, E1-E3-E1, 72B, Det 27, FE64-JL65, (CW3 Michelle), PSC 303, BX 25 APO AP 96204-0025 (Korea), firstname.lastname@example.org, SFC, USA(Ret) - To my friends and family, This email is going out on behalf of my sister who lost her husband in February 2003. He was a trucker and now she needs to sell his rig. I can vouch for its condition and appearance. He took pride in it and as soon as she scans a photo of it I will send it to anyone who is interested. Neither one of us know that much about the resale of these big rigs, so any input would be greatly appreciated.
99 FREIGHTLINER CONVENTIONAL
70" RAISED ROOF SLEEPERCAB
DETROIT 12.7 60S 430/500HP
FULLER RTLD 16713A TRANSMISSION
MERITOR FF-981 @ 12,000#FRONT AXLE
MERITOR RT-40-145 @ 40,000#REAR AXLE
FREIGHTLINER 40,000# AIR SUSPENSION
SYNTHENTIC LUBE TRANSMISSION REAR AXLE
ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM
HOLLAND FW35 18.4 AIR SLIDE 5TH WHEEL
3.58 REAR AXLE RATIO
DUAL 100 GALLON FUEL TANKS
6 FREIGHTLINER ALUMINUM LOGO WHEELS
RADIO & CB
5YR./750,000 EXTENDED COVERAGE AXLES
5YR/500,000 EXTENDED COVERAGE TRANSMISSION
1-21-03=ELECTRICAL SYSTEM CHECK
2-3-03=R & R HEAD & HEAD GASKET REPLACED
HILBURN, Herbert Det 27, 61-62, email@example.com [edited - Herbert Hilburn visited Roy DesRuisseaux's Det 27 website (http://stormpages.com/robo/nudet27.htm) and emailed him the follow- ing message: [edited] "MY NAME IS HERBERT HILBURN AND I WAS AT DET 27, Manzarali Station - 61-62. I WAS DISCHARGED ON 5 AUGUST 1962. I FLEW TO ISTANBUL, THEN TO FRANKFORT FOR A THREE DAY LAYOVER, SAME AS WHEN I WENT OVER. I REMEMBER THE GUY SELLING THE REFIG'S BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER THE GUY WITH THE COAT ON. I HEARD ABOUT A PLANE BUT GOING TO SINOP BUT NEVER SAW IT. I RECALL THE GUY THAT WAS SENT DOWN FROM SINOP THAT ALMOST STARTED A WAR. HE TOLD ME ABOUT IT. DO YOU REMEMBER MY BUDDY BILL HARRIS? HE WAS ALWAYS GAMBLING. DO YOU REMEMBER BOBBY BYLER? HE CLIMBED THE ANTENNA'S. HE WAS MY ROOM MATE. IT SURE CHANGED AFTER THEY STARTED BUILDING THE WALL IN BERLIN THE POPULATION THERE SHOT UP DRAMATICALLY. FROM TWO TO A ROOM TO FOUR.
HOPKINS, Jim, DOB: 28OC39, RA15659763, E2-E5, 058, Det 27, SE62-JL64, (Mary Beth), 679 S Alkire St., Lakewood, CO., 80228, 303-986-7870, no email. Jim is a native of Poland, Ohio. Some of his Manzarali friends were Brian Hennessey, Dave Schultz from Salt Lake City then, Roger Squire from Connecticut and Rod Tully from New York City.
HUNT, Carlos E DOB 21MY37 E3-E4 058 Det 4, MR58-MR59, (Frankie), 10215 Hwy 79e, Henderson, TX 75652, 903-889-2391, firstname.lastname@example.org - Merhaba, Frankie and I have made our reservations at 7 Springs. We are excited about the reunion.
LOVETT, Eric, E7, MP, Det 4, SE83-OC84, Box 3050 Chinle, AZ, 86503, email@example.com. Iyi Gunler, Abey, After reading through a lot of the memoirs in the back issues of DAYS OF OUR LIVES, I feel like a real late-comer since I was at the USAFS Sinop (then INSCOM) from September '83 to October '84. I was the MP Station Commander there and retired in 1988 as a MSG at the MP School when it was still at Fort McClellan. Without a doubt one of the most interesting and challenging assignments of my career and I still yearn to return to Sinop and see all my Turkish friends. After duty hours I was one of the last managers of the Sportsman's Club before it was dissolved in favor of the new "enlisted club" (can't remember the name). The Sportsman's Club originally started as a Rod and Gun Club but by the time I was there we were reduced to selling Diogenes Station logo items (hats, jackets, Zippos, etc), darts, hunting knives, and we maintained a well stocked bar of beer and wine and chili of dubious quality. Anyway, we celebrated a great many promotions at the club with great gusto, zeal, and abandon. The years have gone by and now I'm a social worker (MSW) for the Navajo Indians in northeast Arizona -- yet another isolated hardship tour! I've been trying to locate Patrick McEvoy, originally from Michigan and the leader our SWAT team, and Dave Myers (Meyers?), from Colorado and who served twice on the hill, once as my operations sergeant. Both are great guys and I miss them. Suggestion: How about a searchable data base with everyone's names in roster form???
Sorry, can't make the 2003 reunion; maybe later. Eric Lovett, MSG, USA (Ret)
MYERS, Ralph DOB: OC38, S3, Det 4, 15JN72-25MY73, (Patti), 6 Hammond Ln., Fredericksburg, VA 22407, 540-898-4390, firstname.lastname@example.org [edited] Hello Elder and Merhaba to you all. We just returned from a Caribbean cruise during which I had a chance to practice my limited Turkish. Our waiter was from Istanbul. He was really pleased when I had the whole table give him a rousing Cok Gazelle (sp?) at the end of the final dinner. I went to your website and found the 2001 Memory document to be very interesting. I was the Operations Officer at TUSLOG Det 4 in Sinop in 1972-73, and did go down to Det 4-4 at Karamursel to visit the ASA detachment there on my quarterly IG visits. I started reading the DOOLs chronologically starting with the latest, and I did find lots of former Sinopers. I found some former Sinopers who attended the 2002 ASA Turkey reunion in DOOL #88, but didn't recognize any of them, probably because they were all there long before me. It's funny, but when I saw the first Det 4'er in that reunion group, the SP3 grade of Vern Kallenborn took me aback. I think you go back further than I do so the SP3 was probably not a misprint, and maybe the Army had SP3's back then in the 50's. Although I didn't see any that were there when I was, I'm now sure there probably is, and am looking forward to reading the other DOOLs. What I have read brings back a lot of good memories. I still stay in touch with some former Sinopers, so I will pass your email on to them. Col Chet Crowell and his first wife, Georgia, are divorced. He is married to a Medical Doctor and lives in Canada. We stay in regular touch with Georgia Crowell. She moved a couple of years ago from Myrtle Beach, SC to Hereford, AZ, right near Sierra Vista (Ft. Huachuca). Colonel Darrell Arena's mind is still sharp as a tack! Fortunately, I continue to enjoy good health although am on cholesterol lowering and blood pressure medications. I'm working out every day, and have lost 20 pounds over the past three months through dieting. Gained three pounds of that back though on the cruise. Here's my take regarding the things Akers said. I am unaware of any drug/racial problems at Sinop while I was there. We had excellent relations with the comm unit stationed there and I don't recall their CO, a captain whose name I don't remember, ever bringing it up. We did have an incident where a member of the Turkish guard force stole a radio out of the BOQ and after he was found missing from the muster conducted immediately after, he was located, tried in a court martial, found guilty and taken to prison within 24 hours. Talk about swift justice in the Turkish Army! Keeping this going must be a Herculean effort on your part. Thanks.
POPE, Calvin, DOB: 8JN41, RA14748362, E4, 058/059, Det 27, 62-65, (Elaine), PO Box 424, Bay Minette, AL., 36507, 251-580-0763, email@example.com Mbr & coach of MSC Championship Flag Football Team in 64 - Had a phone call from ole Turkish buddy that I had forgot about named John M. Hall. Told him about the reunion's. He would like for you to fill him on things that are going on pertaining to Turkey. He said he had some pictures. He lives in Michigan. e-mail is firstname.lastname@example.org. We would like to attend the 2003 reunion, but am having both knees replaced soon. Thanks Pope
RAY, Russ DOB: 1938 03-04 9640 Det 4, AP68-AP69, 9832 Ashford Ave., Westminster, CA 92683, 714-775-6973, email@example.com. This is up-dated information.
RIEDY, Richard D., DOB: 5OC36, RA19549080, E-4, 965.1676 (Turk Interpreter), Det 4, OC57-MR59, 260 Gensen Drive SW., Los Lunas, NM 87031, 505-865-3874, firstname.lastname@example.org [edited - I believe that Richard Riedy was the first school trained Turkish linguist assigned to Sinop and his input has been most valuable in my attempt to re-construct the early days on the hill called SINOP. His remarks pertain to a photo taken by Fred Schwartz in 1959 at the front entrance to the ASA outpost] - Elder Green, I left Det 4 in March 1959 and at that time to the best of my memory and looking at some of my photos, I can't recall the buildings, etc in Schwartz excellent photo that you attached. I remember just a one-man guard box on the right side of the road as you drove up the hill. Also, during my time at Det 4 we did not have MP's nor did we have a dispensary. Best regards, Richard Riedy [Can anyone remember when Army trained and ASA cleared MP's were assigned to Det 4? Also - Who was the first to serve as medical personnel at Det 4, either medic or a doctor]
RINEHOLD, John W E5 05DDet 4, 66-67, P.O. Box 1495, Philomath, OR 97370, 541-929-3374, email@example.com. - Hanging in the bedroom is the deep green/turquoise bathrobe I bought in Sinop so long ago. It is still holding its color and wearing very nicely. I wish I could buy another. The meerschaum pipe vanished at the time of my uncle's death. I had given it to him. The alexandrite ring turned my finger green and the puzzle ring remains a mystery, but alas it is also long gone. The alabaster vases I gave my mother are now in my living room, resting on the piano. Mother is gone, but the vases remain.My son (USAF) is at Qatar. Every man is a moon and has a dark side which he never shows to anybody. Samuel Clemens
RODRIGUES, Charlie E4 Supply Det 4, 59-60,
(Patricia), 210 Benham Ave., Syracuse, NY 13219, 315-487-1195, firstname.lastname@example.org IMPORTANT BULLETIN.......To all my new found Sinop and
you don't have a favorite team in the Finals.....Goooo SU......and.....Vince....If you see any tickets floating around the Big Easy, don't forget your Ole Buddy. Charlie R PS My prediction...SU and Marquette in Final Two....GO SU. [Charlie - Good prediction, even though Syracuse finished 2nd to PITT in the BIG EAST!- - -gH]
SANDVOLD, Jay C DOB: 29JN45 RA18662520 E3-E4 059 Det 27, OC64-SE66, 217 Hill St., Kemper, TX 76539, 512-932-2272, email@example.com. Was trained at Devens as a Non-Morse Intercept Operator. Worked in the 059 section for 9 months at Manzarali, then the remainder as a wrapper in the C/C where he was awarded the 982 MOS. Linda, his first wife was with Jay in Ankara. Retired as a Master Sergeant E8 from the Army in August 1985 with 22 years active duty. Owns a gun shop in Kemper, TX. One of his customers was stationed at Sinop.